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Looks like Enta is reach the bottom, time to move ISP's.
ENTA changes!!!
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Looks like Enta is reach the bottom, time to move ISP's.
Soldato
Just got two emails from uksfn/entanet with the outlined changes and prices...
http://www.ukfsn.org/newadslproducts.html - starting March 30th. I'll be transferred over to the Family 30 package. Slightly cheaper, but I'll be losing my 300GB off-peak
Time to move yes, but where
I really don't want to get tied down to a 12 month contract? What non-llu, enta alternatives are there?
SW.
http://www.ukfsn.org/newadslproducts.html - starting March 30th. I'll be transferred over to the Family 30 package. Slightly cheaper, but I'll be losing my 300GB off-peak
Time to move yes, but where
I really don't want to get tied down to a 12 month contract? What non-llu, enta alternatives are there?SW.
Yep, I wont be staying with them, but I knew that a while ago. My exchange is devoid of any sort of reasonable ISP.
In my area Enta have had 3x 8hour+ outages over the last 6 weeks alone. Not to mention absolute garbage download speeds during off-peak hours.
Problem for me is that I don't want to sign up to a 12 month+ contract when my exchange goes live for 21CN at the end of march.
In my area Enta have had 3x 8hour+ outages over the last 6 weeks alone. Not to mention absolute garbage download speeds during off-peak hours.
Problem for me is that I don't want to sign up to a 12 month+ contract when my exchange goes live for 21CN at the end of march.
Soldato
Just got two emails from uksfn/entanet with the outlined changes and prices...
http://www.ukfsn.org/newadslproducts.html - starting March 30th. I'll be transferred over to the Family 30 package. Slightly cheaper, but I'll be losing my 300GB off-peak
Time to move yes, but where
SW.
I could be missing something but ...
Doesn't this mean that although you are losing the offpeak allowance, you can use whatever you want in this period out of hours?. However it says that the ALT will give high usage users a lower priority :/
Granted I jumped ship a while back as I was down to 2.5mb constantly with them. Went to Be and got 7mb.
Not sure why you're making such a fuss about the 300Gb off peak allowance going as it is now 'use as much as you like' whatever they mean by that, the ALT tool will hit heavy users but to be honest that is perfectly fair and IMO if you're just downloading piles of stuff overnight what does it matter whether it goes at full speed or a couple of Mbit slower?
The current 21CN teething issues are the nasty bit that is losing them customers, although every other ISP may just end up going through the same thing in a few months time when they start to make the change over.
Be/O2 is fine, although some areas have crap connections too, mine is one of them in terms of latency and reliability of my connection both have gone down hill substantially in the last couple of months.
If you want a good non-llu provider with one month contracts at the moment I think unless you're prepared to pay a bit of a premium for Zen or a decent business grade ISP your choices are fairly restricted.
The current 21CN teething issues are the nasty bit that is losing them customers, although every other ISP may just end up going through the same thing in a few months time when they start to make the change over.
Be/O2 is fine, although some areas have crap connections too, mine is one of them in terms of latency and reliability of my connection both have gone down hill substantially in the last couple of months.
If you want a good non-llu provider with one month contracts at the moment I think unless you're prepared to pay a bit of a premium for Zen or a decent business grade ISP your choices are fairly restricted.
Soldato
Yeah, sorry, I didn't realise that the new off-peak is more or less 'unlimited.'
Still likely to leave enta tho
SW.
Still likely to leave enta tho
SW.
Correct me if I'm wrong but one of the main reasons why they are changing the packages is because they simply can't afford to offer large bandwidth allowances like the 30/300GB package, as they are probably losing money.
I'd guess that if you download anywhere near 300GB you'd be classed as one of those high users and effectively throttled by the ALT.
I guess you'll have to wait and see what happens. You can't really expect constantly fast speeds and low pings with high bandwidth allowances on IPStream products unless you pay large amounts for it.
If all you care about is downloading as much as possible for as cheap as possible I think O2 would be the best IPStream provider for this.
If you want constantly fast and stable speeds/pings 24/7, then look at Zen or Newnet.
I was lucky and moved to Plusnet before the recent 12/18month contracts were brought in and it's perfect for me.
Constantly fast browsing and low pings 24/7 with unlimited usage (it is actually unlimited, no FUP) between 00:00 and 08:00 everyday. Now they've changed their packages though which are not as good and come with 12-18 month contracts.
I'd guess that if you download anywhere near 300GB you'd be classed as one of those high users and effectively throttled by the ALT.
I guess you'll have to wait and see what happens. You can't really expect constantly fast speeds and low pings with high bandwidth allowances on IPStream products unless you pay large amounts for it.
If all you care about is downloading as much as possible for as cheap as possible I think O2 would be the best IPStream provider for this.
If you want constantly fast and stable speeds/pings 24/7, then look at Zen or Newnet.
I was lucky and moved to Plusnet before the recent 12/18month contracts were brought in and it's perfect for me.
Constantly fast browsing and low pings 24/7 with unlimited usage (it is actually unlimited, no FUP) between 00:00 and 08:00 everyday. Now they've changed their packages though which are not as good and come with 12-18 month contracts.
Soldato
What is 'ALT' btw - forgot to ask last night...
Cheers,
SW.
Cheers,
SW.
Caporegime
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Bit about switching Centrals doesn't apply anymore seen as they don't exist.
Bit about switching Centrals doesn't apply anymore seen as they don't exist.
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Soldato
Thanks
Caporegime
All the resellers are leaving Enta. so you could wait and see who they go with, and what new packages they do.
Soldato
Hmm. I was under the impression that my isp, ukfsn, were staying with enta, hence the revised price plan?
I think I'm going to leave it for a while now anyway like you say, and see what sort of new deals show up
I think I'm going to leave it for a while now anyway like you say, and see what sort of new deals show up
Caporegime
Nope, they all looking at alternatives.
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It marketing speak from the bottom feeders in that department
ALT = We throttling the living hell outa of you because we cant be bothered to actually buy enough capacity that our network needs
Soldato
Just got two emails from uksfn/entanet with the outlined changes and prices...
http://www.ukfsn.org/newadslproducts.html - starting March 30th. I'll be transferred over to the Family 30 package. Slightly cheaper, but I'll be losing my 300GB off-peak
Time to move yes, but where
SW.
im with adsl24 & the 300gb off peak has been scrapped, i think its unlimited off peak now!!!!
Below is an extract from the T & C for new packages over at adsl24, it seems 12am-8am is now free download time!!!! i.e. no 300gb off peak limit!!! DONT PANIC MR MANNERING
Free extra allowance
As well as the standard monthly allowance, any usage between 12am and 8am weekdays and all weekend is completely free and does not count towards your normal monthly allowance. Due to the nature of this you should expect to see lower than normal speeds at busy times in some areas during this free period, however this should not affect any browsing, gaming, VoIP or other latency critical applications as the network is managed to ensure that ping times and latency is always low and packet loss is prevented.
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Caporegime
Yeah its going to become unlimted, with speeds around 512k to 1mb, although most people are getting those speeds now off peak (including me).
I dont understand the table published on UKFSN's website.
its says the naming convention is based on the download amount, but 'family allowance 30' (30 gb ) is £18-95 and family allowance 3 (3 Gb? for a month??) is £15-95 ! it doesnt make sense
its says the naming convention is based on the download amount, but 'family allowance 30' (30 gb ) is £18-95 and family allowance 3 (3 Gb? for a month??) is £15-95 ! it doesnt make sense
Hmm, I'm not sure what to do. I'm currently with UKFSN on the Home Max 30 package and the speeds are fine (usual 4.5mb roughly), but the changes worry me slightly...
This is my usage over the last few months
I think I might need to change as the peak hours change could bring me over the 30gb limit but I don't see anywhere else to go...?
I don't want to spend the extra £10 for 60gb but I don't want to end up in a long contract with another company to find out the performance is bad. Any suggestions?
This is my usage over the last few months
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Billing Period Total Bandwidth Usage Peak Usage
15 Feb 2009 - 14 Mar 2009 19.99 GB 11.44 GB
15 Jan 2009 - 14 Feb 2009 36.16 GB 23.3 GB
15 Dec 2008 - 14 Jan 2009 28.11 GB 14.54 GB
15 Nov 2008 - 14 Dec 2008 28.74 GB 12.26 GB
15 Oct 2008 - 14 Nov 2008 34.69 GB 19.82 GB
15 Sep 2008 - 14 Oct 2008 32.18 GB 18.38 GBI think I might need to change as the peak hours change could bring me over the 30gb limit but I don't see anywhere else to go...?
I don't want to spend the extra £10 for 60gb but I don't want to end up in a long contract with another company to find out the performance is bad. Any suggestions?
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If your usage is mainly in the evening you could go with a business package which is off-peak 8pm-8am. It is more expensive at £19 for 15gb peak though but if your usage is coming after 8 then it would be fine.
That is what i am going to do.
After thinking about it I think I'm just gonna see how it goes, if I do go over the cap it's only likely to be a few gb which wouldn't be too expensive in charges. If it becomes a regular occurence then I may look for other options but hopefully it won't. Let's hope the speed during off-peak is good though...