Epic vs steam - have your thoughts changed?

I've gone off both. It's all about the xbox gaming pass ultimate for me.

- Cloud gaming works ridiculously well
- Enough AAA games to last the year
- Enough games to last several years
- Play on xbox or PC, or any device with a html5 browser
 
I've never been against Epic, but I still try to buy most games on Steam because no-one else offers anything comparable to Big Picture mode and the driver support it offers for various controllers (although I'm less fussy when it comes to games I will play with M&KB).

I know I can add them as a non-steam game, but this doesn't always work properly compared to natively within Steam
 
I've gone off both. It's all about the xbox gaming pass ultimate for me.

- Cloud gaming works ridiculously well
- Enough AAA games to last the year
- Enough games to last several years
- Play on xbox or PC, or any device with a html5 browser

I think for cloud gaming to work most people would need a half decent internet

but most of the country lives in the internet dark ages compared to city folk and our european cousins in germany ect
 
cloud gaming works until you need fast reaction times who wants to play a game with 25-50ms input lag

I think you're missing the point. It's included as part of the service. Steam and Epic don't have anything like that yet.

You don't need to play multilayer games either all the time too. ;)
 
cloud gaming will be the only option at some point if you let it.

you literally won't be able to own a game.

sounds like a great future
 
Honestly it is slowly crawling its way there. The things I'd like;

  • Statistics shown next to the picture in library with time played, last played, completed date, achievements completed XX/XX
  • Setting landing page to library rather than store
  • Workshop style system
  • User review system
Not really too bothered by other things in honesty. Don't use Steam social stuff at all so won't be using Epic either if that ever hot added.
 
Until Epic stop trying to steal exclusive games I'm not interested in using them.

I also think it cheapens the entire industry for them to be bribing people with free games all the time, after all if you're up to your eye balls in free games, why would you buy new ones?

I don't understand this point of view. The free games are to get people using there platform. There is nothing wrong with enticing people to use there platform, surely you don't see an offer of 50% off in a shop and go 'neah I'll go next door and pay the full price so the retailer gets more money as this offers just to get me in the shop'

If they have no exclusive games then why would you go there? If every game was on every platform then you'd stick to where you are stating that you already have Steam or whatever so why would you move away from it. Steam has exclusives as well so let's not forget that.




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There also the fact that there is Steam exclusive games that people seem to be willing to ignore? And it isn't just on Epic, the devs and publishers of said game also are doing the same since its an agreement.

They have ability to say no we want to support all store fronts. They aren't? Yet it just Epic getting blamed and people willing to forgive developers/publishers to buy on steam still a year later?
 
There also the fact that there is Steam exclusive games that people seem to be willing to ignore? And it isn't just on Epic, the devs and publishers of said game also are doing the same since its an agreement.

They have ability to say no we want to support all store fronts. They aren't? Yet it just Epic getting blamed and people willing to forgive developers/publishers to buy on steam still a year later?
very true.

personally i dont mind what store i buy from or if its exclusive. i buy the game not the store. i created this thread as i know a lot of people were Eurgh epic. but at the end of the day

They are
* Giving developers more money by their cut usage
* buying mass amount of games to be given away
* Trying to upset steam with competition.
* deliverying cheaper prices in most places than steam.

even if you dont like epic they got be comended to even think about trying to take share away from steam.

at the end of the day its steam that has caused this launcher mayhem by taking 30% for years without really much to show for it from developers side. which is why ubisoft/ea all started doing their own to get more money for there work.

i wouldnt want 30% of my programming work to go to a Distrubtion platform. 30% is a huge cut.

in other areas
just-eat used to take 15% now they charge 30% & some takeaway can no longer manage & again last year or two we seen mass amount of do it yourself order online stores.
 
Yeah I've started ordering food direct from restaurants now. It generally the food cheaper because they not covering the Just Eat cut or it is same price but they not loosing 30% anymore so fair play if its reasonable price.

Not to add Just Eat is the worst. I have been trying ti get a refund for a month on food that didn't turn up and then this Monday finally got an answer and they gave credit on their app and don't refund service charge or delivery charge when those things never happened to charge for! Mental and they got no communication ability.
 
Yeah I've started ordering food direct from restaurants now. It generally the food cheaper because they not covering the Just Eat cut or it is same price but they not loosing 30% anymore so fair play if its reasonable price.

Not to add Just Eat is the worst. I have been trying ti get a refund for a month on food that didn't turn up and then this Monday finally got an answer and they gave credit on their app and don't refund service charge or delivery charge when those things never happened to charge for! Mental and they got no communication ability.
to get a refund its 2 buttons on the app after the time get help with your order - refund -> missing item(s) reason -> instant money back.

so much so people are doing it to get free food as just eat refunds entire order even if 1 item is ticked as missed :(
i now a few resturants near me struggling because of it

im terrible for food though i know most of the just eat drivers & Deliveroo by name... but have started going direct if PP is a option
 
to get a refund its 2 buttons on the app after the time get help with your order - refund -> missing item(s) reason -> instant money back.

so much so people are doing it to get free food as just eat refunds entire order even if 1 item is ticked as missed :(
i now a few resturants near me struggling because of it

im terrible for food though i know most of the just eat drivers & Deliveroo by name... but have started going direct if PP is a option

I did that and got nothing back and they reviewed it which took them 4 weeks to respond by email and then they said refund to credit to account as requested (it wasn't as no way to select such option) and 5 days later I still don't actually have the credit back. Also when you select refund you select what was missing and they refund the items missing so unless you decide to click all then yeah that on the person scamming but it a pain when want a genuine refund.

With that I go to my local Indian enough I get an xmas and bday card every year so...
 
I did that and got nothing back and they reviewed it which took them 4 weeks to respond by email and then they said refund to credit to account as requested (it wasn't as no way to select such option) and 5 days later I still don't actually have the credit back. Also when you select refund you select what was missing and they refund the items missing so unless you decide to click all then yeah that on the person scamming but it a pain when want a genuine refund.

With that I go to my local Indian enough I get an xmas and bday card every year so...
its fully automated now and has been for a few months odd.
 
I think the main two differences for me would be the lack of workshop and the discussions forum per game. If I were buying a game that had a lot of community mod support it would be hard not to choose to buy it on Steam. This is even more of an issue for Stadia as it makes little sense buying such a game on that platform without any way to slipstream in mods. At least with Epic you have the game on your system so if the mod is available to download somewhere then you can implement the mod locally.
 
Not much, both Steam and Epic are a minor annoyance but not one worth getting worked up over (both are much better than Windows Store for example).
I like the fact that I get free games from Epic and the Steam sales aren't what they were 10+ years ago. Can't remember the last time I bought a game on Steam, wouldn't surprise me if I haven't bought any at all this year.
 
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