Epson R1800 Colour problems

jesta · 2 Dec 2008 at 23:52

After looking at A3 Printers I purchased an Epson R1800 off ebay. Test printed it at the sellers house and the quality is good and all that, took it home, tried to print some stuff grayscale the print has a green tint to it but after changing photo black, matte black cartridges it has a blue tint. I have tried using different colour profiles (RGB, CMYK) but it doesn't seem to print grayscale properly. I am thinking it's maybe the cartridges problem (not official and it uses a mixture of brand)?

Thanks

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 3 Dec 2008 at 00:04

where you printing it from?

Helium_Junkie · 3 Dec 2008 at 00:06

You need to ensure all the colour profiles match, on the printer and in the app printing the pic.

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 3 Dec 2008 at 00:07

sounds to me like double profiling.

in photoshop set output to no color management. just let the printer do the printing at first.

jesta · 3 Dec 2008 at 00:53

I am printing from Photoshop and also tried Epson Creativity Suite. It prints photos alright although gray colours are still very dodgy. When you say double profiling is that when a printer uses a different profile to the program?

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 3 Dec 2008 at 11:16

double profiling is when a program is trying to force one profile onto another one embedded by the image.. pretty much, its like clashing.

jesta · 3 Dec 2008 at 21:52

I just tried putting the colour management to no colour management but the photos still comes out with a greeny blue tint. Could it be one of the colour cartridges?

FreeStream · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:50

Are you setting the printer to only use black and white? I have that option on my 5 year old 830U

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:52

You need to force greyscale printing which is within the print driver options.

jesta · 4 Dec 2008 at 00:35

I have tried using the option grayscale but it still prints with a blue tint, any more ideas?
By the way Fstop11 do you use CIS? If so where do you get your inks?

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 4 Dec 2008 at 01:08

try different papers.
convert the color profile to srgb
fully desaturate the image

I did use CIS. I just threw my R1800 in the bin a few weeks ago. Very unhappy with Epson printers.
Permajet I got my inks from. They have a retail office in Stockport so its very local to me.

jesta · 4 Dec 2008 at 11:16

I have tried different paper (cartridge, plain paper, glossy photo paper, matte paper) but the photos still prints out with a green/ blue cast that is even after setting the profile to srgb and desaturated the image. It is getting rather frustrating, I printed off a banner sheet with some parts having a black background and the red lines on the black background turns orangey brown and the purple lines turns into a cool blue. Any ideas?

Shetlander · 4 Dec 2008 at 11:32

The R1800 uses all the colour cartridges to print greyscale to acheive even tones.
The colour cast is a common problem, see - http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=29592322
If you search, you will find that you can tweak one of the colours in the driver to remove the cast. If you search for it you will find it Im sure. Ive had a quick look but cant find it. I
I have a Photography magazine at home that reviewed the R1800 and told you exactly what colours affect the outcome for black and white prints. If i can remember when I get home Ill see if I can dig it out.

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 4 Dec 2008 at 11:36

its why the 2400 came out and was praised.

jesta · 4 Dec 2008 at 12:04

Thanks for the replies guys, Shetlander that would be awesome if you can find the magazine as that would help me a lot!

jesta · 5 Dec 2008 at 18:19

Shetlander did you manage to find the magazine?

For CIS systems how comes there are ones that are £42 but some are £200+ what differences are there?