Equal opportunities - blah blah blah
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Notice how I didn't call you a bum, I don't know your situation, so I'm not really in a position to call you anything.
I agree, and also you should not be able to claim benefits unless you have paid tax for 10years minimum first
So that basically means you can't claim until at least your 26?
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I agree, and also you should not be able to claim benefits unless you have paid tax for 10years minimum first
No chance! Just think about how stupid that is. Anyone losing their job under the age of 26/28 on a lowish income would be screwed! Some times it takes a few months to find a new job and the idea that you could lose everything because of that is horrible.
I think the sensible solution would be to introduce time limits for claiming, it's been suggested many times before. i.e. 6 months max benefits, after this they either scale them back to a really low amount/stop, or you they give you a job to do in the meantime and you do it.
For us natives, then it is a right, but for the immigrants, then 10 years sounds about right.
This country is the soft touch of Europe at the moment, and it has to stop, the country cannot take x million new people each year, the Police can't keep up, the NHS is struggling anyway and the schools need three teachers per class so they can all understand each other, crime is up, car accidents are up, (they all drive like lunatics!
)This country is no longer England
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Looking at the figures it seems that the UK wouldn't cope without mass immigration. It's easy to try and blame all the problems the country has on someone else but it just isn't true i'm afraid.
It was coping 5 years ago quite nicely, and 10 years ago.
It doesn't seem to be coping now though...
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for immigrants yes. the state pays you when you are in need but not until you have paid the state first
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I doubt very much that anything meaningful has changed in the past 5-10 years (i.e. crime/nhs), it's just the perception of it that has/news coverage.
For example watching the US news we get over here you really start to think that every person with darker skin is out to kill you. But it's total rubbish! If it were true there'd be bombs going off all the time. It's just a lie to keep everyone in place/scared/trying to sell papers through hysteric headlines etc.
The same is true in the UK, the news always reports about the immigrants coming over and stealing the jobs, or that they all come over and don't steal the jobs but claim loads of benefits. If all the immigrants were to up and leave nothing would change for the better, you'd still have crime/loads of unemployment. You'd also have a mass shortage of nurses and teachers etc!
For example watching the US news we get over here you really start to think that every person with darker skin is out to kill you. But it's total rubbish! If it were true there'd be bombs going off all the time. It's just a lie to keep everyone in place/scared/trying to sell papers through hysteric headlines etc.
The same is true in the UK, the news always reports about the immigrants coming over and stealing the jobs, or that they all come over and don't steal the jobs but claim loads of benefits. If all the immigrants were to up and leave nothing would change for the better, you'd still have crime/loads of unemployment. You'd also have a mass shortage of nurses and teachers etc!
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I agree, and also you should not be able to claim benefits unless you have paid tax for 10years minimum first
How ridiculous. So in this scenario, say a family divorces, father takes everything, he was the one paying the tax, not the mother as she stayed at home. The mother can't claim any benefit can she?
Not if she's foreign, she'd have to be deported.
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I agree there have always been immigrants, but it has dramatically got worse since eastern Europe became a EU member state..
I live in an estate with 38 houses.
25 of them are NOT owned by English people, and our neighbours are the most ignorant, unhelpful, unfriendly hellish people I have ever met and wouldn't wee on them if they were on fire.
However, the Portuguese the other side of us keep themselves to themselves and always speak.
I'd say just immigrants.
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I agree there have always been immigrants, but it has dramatically got worse since eastern Europe became a EU member state..
I live in an estate with 38 houses.
25 of them are NOT owned by English people, and our neighbours are the most ignorant, unhelpful, unfriendly hellish people I have ever met and wouldn't wee on them if they were on fire.
However, the Portuguese the other side of us keep themselves to themselves and always speak.
I wouldn't at all mind living in an area where the majority of people aren't English (I'm currently living in Canada and have lived in France), however I would hate to live near the neighbor that you describe! But then you get people like that from all nationalities.
What I find unfair is that some retard from Eastern Europe with English language skills equal to those of my dog can come in and get a job, whilst highly qualified (i.e. beyond degree level), fluent in English, and want to fill roles that most English people cannot/ will not fill are told No.
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So a women could have lived here as a housewife for x years. Raised children etc. Her whole life could well be in England now. But because her marriage breaks down you'd see her on the street?!?! How heartless. I'm just glad it's not people like you that are in charge, and that more powers are being shared with the rest of Europe (not given, the UK is part of Europe after all).
If anything the UK should move their laws/immigration/benefits etc to be exactly the same as the rest of Europe. Then no one can say anything about the soft touch etc. Also i'd be interested to know how/if these laws change between the UK and France/Germany/Spain etc. Can you not claim benefits as an immigrant there?
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If someone brought up in the UK, who has been to University and come out with great qualifications gets beaten out of a job in the UK by a 'retard' who can't speak English then they really don't deserve all the opportunities they were given. Do you really believe this happens???
for immigrants yes. the state pays you when you are in need but not until you have paid the state first
Funnily enough the majority of immigrants aren't entitled to almost all benefits.