Poll: Erik ten Hag Sack Watch & Next Manchester United Manager? Sacked. Ruben Amorim appointed.

To sack or not to sack

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spudbynight said:
No, he wasn't given the medium term. He was given the short term and he simply managed to stay in place. Nearly all his signings were short term. The pressure on him was for short term success.
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I disagree, 2 full seasons and lots of financial backing is more than fair in today's game. You aren't getting 3 full seasons at any supposed top club without showing signs of progression.

Back to Amorim...

Sporting Lisbon are demanding that Manchester United pay another £4million for the release of members of Rúben Amorim’s backroom staff before he can become the new manager at Old Trafford.

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Rúben Amorim: Sporting want extra £4m to take coaches to Man United

Sporting confirm that Manchester United have expressed interest in triggering Rúben Amorim’s £8.3million release clause but manager insists ‘nothing’s decided’
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This would also waive his notice period. Seems fair enough to me. I'm hoping he can start after the Chelsea game, no reason to wait...
 
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There is going to be a lot of attention around Sporting v Man City on 5th November (Tuesday). I hope Pep doesn't batter him :o :cry:

Shamikebab said:
Antony LWB feels like an obvious thing to try while we have no players there.
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Joking aside, Antony did look good for Ajax in some Champions League games (against Amorim's Sporting, no less). I think there's a player in there and he's not as bad as people think... he does seem a bit of a weirdo though.
 
Interestingly he's been specifically appointed as a head coach, not the usual title of manager. More in line with how a lot of clubs are operating nowadays.

The media are reporting that he was always the plan since the summer, and as our interest in him became apparent a few hours after ETH was sacked, that is probably true.

It shows at least there was a clear train of thought from Berrada and Ashworth in terms of the coach they wanted, I don't think Tuchel & others were ever on the cards.
 
I assume they wanted to give ETH another shot, but had Amorim as a contingency plan, as any sensible business would...

They dropped a huge clanger off the back of that FA Cup final though.
 
BaZ87 said:
Has there been any comment from ETH since his sacking? I've not seen or heard anything from him which seems a bit strange. Usually there's some sort of statement, even if it's only a token gesture 'I wish the club all the best....'.
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RvN just said he's spoken to him and he's "hurt" but that's about it.
 
GarethSouthgate said:
Not just cup but they also sanctioned what £200m spend knowing that they had no faith in the manager? That's madness. Like I said before if they were giving him a chance they needed to allow him to use more than 60% of the players they just bought.

Souness (lol) called out Ineos saying they're clueless. Hard to disagree, to some extent anyway. Not sure why Ineos get so much positive press (do they own any media outlets?).
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I don't think they're getting much positive press at all? They've been roundly vilified for sacking a quarter the Man Utd staff and effectively sacking Sir Alex... what they have done is appointed the likes of Dan Ashworth who is highly regarded within the game, something the Glazers failed to do.

It's still early days, appointing their own manager is a big moment.
 
A2Z said:
So Amorim wanted to stay at Sporting till the end of the season but Utd said now or never. Feel sorry for him tbh, can't help but feel it's the wrong decision for him, and I say that as a United fan.

Might as well start counting down the days till him getting sacked stories start after the poor performances continue as expected.
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The bar is now set very low, all he’s got to do is start working towards a cohesive playing style for the team. I don’t think anyone expects a major change overnight, although ETH was so bad that people seem to think the manager doesn’t make much difference: not true. Look at the change when Solskjaer took over. We’ve got people saying the team is no better than 14th…

If Aston Villa went to play Real Madrid tomorrow, look at their squads, but you’d give them a decent chance of getting something. That’s down to the manager and the coaching.

We don’t know what’ll happen but let’s look at the facts, we’ve just got rid of a seriously underperforming manager for a highly rated one who seems to have a completely different approach. It might just work…

I think our fans are extremely patient. Last season was utterly dire yet the majority wanted ETH to stay after the FA Cup final. I knew things wouldn’t change, he just seemed clueless to me - but even I was positive at the start of the season, for a couple of weeks anyway :p
 
For all we know, Berrada and Ashworth are building an entire strategy just to fit Amorim, but they've brought plans forward.

There are definitely plenty of reasons to be concerned around INEOS and everything that's going on, but equally there should be optimism. Omar Berrada knows the inner workings of Man City and everything they've built, and Dan Ashworth knows English football as well as anyone in his sort of role.

I think Amorim will need to adjust his tactics a bit until the squad has seen further changes, he effectively has 3 centre backs and one holding player ahead of them, everyone else goes on the attack. Should be entertaining but there will definitely be issues with counter attacks.
 
www.skysports.com

Ruud van Nistelrooy: Man Utd players want club legend to remain at Old Trafford under Ruben Amorim

Man Utd legend Ruud van Nistelrooy returned to the club in a coaching capacity in July 2024 and is in charge at Old Trafford on an interim basis until Ruben Amorim takes over as Erik ten Hags successor on November 11
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The players are in no position to be making requests or demands. I don't have an issue with him being kept on but if Amorim doesn't want him there, that has to be the decision.
 
I think two of the staff he's bringing are his assistants, so they'd be assistant manager(s). At best RvN would be able to stay as an attacking coach, but I don't see him wanting that. I think he's got the profile to go for a manager role somewhere.

My feeling is that we should be avoiding keeping anyone out of sentimentality, the ex-player approach to things hasn't worked at all. They need to rip everything up and effectively start again.

There's a balance to be had as they'll need to fully back Amorim and build his team, but it needs to fit the long term profile of the club as well - so we don't end up with a load of ex Sporting players... two or three is fine I guess.
 
ETH was seriously lacking in charisma, his English didn't seem that great either.

GarethSouthgate said:
Everyone regresses once they spend enough time at OT. Let's hope he doesn't...
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If he's the 'right man' then he won't. You need an unshakable self-assuredness to even stand a chance in this job. It'll take something special, let's hope he's it...
 
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