Ethernet NAT strict problem

Andybtsn

Andybtsn

Andybtsn

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Guys,

My 360 is connected to my netgear router via wireless, my NAT is set to Strict yet I can host games.

My girlfriends 360 is connected via ethernet, her NAT is set to strict but shes not allowed to host games, what do I need to change on the router??

Cheers

Andy
 
Right I've given the DNZ a static IP address and now my NAT is open (wirless) yet Sarah's is still strict. What do I need to change on the wireless settings?
 
No your help is appreciated buudy, thanks.

I've restored the router to factory settings so I'm starting again.

Both 360's are at Moderate. It will do for now.

Can someone talk me through forwarding ports? I'm not sure what I'm specifically looking for (hopefully rp will read this as he is very throrough!! :))
 
vaultingSlinky said:
not a clue what icmp is...sorry dude thats about the limit at which I can help!!
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The Internet Control Message Protocol is one of the core protocols of the Internet protocol suite. It is chiefly used by networked computers' operating systems to send error messages—indicating, for instance, that a requested service is not available or that a host or router could not be reached.

It's the cheap mans SNMP! We use ICMP @ work to monitor the status of non SNMP aware devices. The ping command sends out ICMP packets.

Hope that helps.


Andybtsn said:
Can someone talk me through forwarding ports? I'm not sure what I'm specifically looking for (hopefully rp will read this as he is very throrough!!
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What model router do you have?

On most routers you enter its IP Address into your web browser (say 192.168.1.1) and then enter the username and password. Here you will see a router config page. Look for a page that says something like Applications & Gaming (Linksys) or Port Forwarding or Firewall settings. In here will be places to enter you port forwarding details.

Enter the ports you want to forward, the type of connection to forward (TCP or UDP or Both) and the internal static address you wish to forward to.

If all else fails use Google to find details on how to do this for your router.
 
Andybtsn said:
No your help is appreciated buudy, thanks.

I've restored the router to factory settings so I'm starting again.

Both 360's are at Moderate. It will do for now.

Can someone talk me through forwarding ports? I'm not sure what I'm specifically looking for (hopefully rp will read this as he is very throrough!! :))
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Start again, with the following:

1) You router model (ADSL or Cable)
2) Your DMZ's IP
3) Your 2 360's IPs (preferably statically assigned).

As the others have stated, I would imagine forwarding the ports for one machine and having the other machine in DMZ. ICMP failure is not really relevant, just means the Live servers cannot ping you (no biggie in terms of gaming I don't think)


rp2000
 
1) Router: Netgear DG834GT
2) DMZ is currently disabled
3) 192.168.0.2 (ethernet) / 192.168.0.3 (wireless)

The router is factory settings.
 
Andybtsn said:
1) Router: Netgear DG834GT
2) DMZ is currently disabled
3) 192.168.0.2 (ethernet) / 192.168.0.3 (wireless)

The router is factory settings.
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Same router as me, so easy peasy

http://192.168.0.1
Go to Services>>Add Custom Service and create the following 2:

xbox_live_1
TCP/UDP
Start Port: 3074
End Port: 3074

xbox_live_2
TCP
Start Port: 88
End Port: 88

Then goto Firewall Rules>>Inbound Services>>Add and then define these 2 services to one of your machines (Action: Always Allow). Now do a Live test on this machine.

For the second machine, now I think about it, putting in the DMZ should not help, as a request will come to your router on pot 88 and it will forward it straightaway to your forwarded 360. Thinking logically there should be no way to have both machines on Live from 1 router, without 2 seperate IP addresses. But start with this and see how you get on.


More info here:
http://www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk/XBoxLiveTheGuide3.php?title=Two+Xboxes+one+internet+connection


rp2000
 
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rp2000 said:
For the second machine, now I think about it, putting in the DMZ should not help, as a request will come to your router on pot 88 and it will forward it straightaway to your forwarded 360. Thinking logically there should be no way to have both machines on Live from 1 router, without 2 seperate IP addresses. But start with this and see how you get on.


More info here:
http://www.xboxlivetheguide.co.uk/XBoxLiveTheGuide3.php?title=Two+Xboxes+one+internet+connection


rp2000
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Correct, you don't need the machines in the DMZ. The router will just port forward incoming packets to the appropriate machine(s).
 
We have a netgear router too and I haven't found a way to have both 360's set to open.
For me which ever 360 is started up first will be Open and the other becomes Moderate.

But like that both are able to join and host any game without issues, both have static addresses too.
 
BenjiSayers said:
We have a netgear router too and I haven't found a way to have both 360's set to open.
For me which ever 360 is started up first will be Open and the other becomes Moderate.
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Netgear! :(

That could be because you have single port forwarding. I.e. only one external port can be forwarded to one internal port. Have you tried port triggering?

Or buy something good like a Cisco/Linksys router! :D :p
 
Not thought of port triggering tbh, will have a look in to that, cheers!

I got the router for free off work, one of the few perks of working for an ISP so can't really complain.
 
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