Europe to get the first batch of PS3's

This year I reckon we gonna see a huge number (wouldnt suprise me if its 25-50%) of the launch batch of PS3's brought up to ebay at christmas, We all saw the 360 ebay action last year and that was small fry compaired to the demand for this.

Reckon you could get £700+ for one of the £425 packs, I dont see a problem with it tbh as if numptys on ebay didnt inflate the cost of everything on there then no one would bother trying to scalp stuff (be it tickets, consoles etc) but the fact is they do.
 
FrankJH said:
Welll I for one really hope you get left with both of them for trying to rip people off
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Ah whatever, there are a lot of people in this country with 1 million plus bank accounts who wouldnt think twice of paying 1k for his kids PS£ and i have no problem taking their money, if the "normal" people want one then camp out or get a pre order!
 
For a minute there I thought we left the capitalist world.

I put forth that it is SONY that are selfish for not producing enough PS3s because they care about their image and getting the console out quickly rather than ensuring all the PS3 fans out there get their console.

Selfish for buying and selling? Please. Might as well say every retailer is selfish for charging a premium on wholesale prices. That wholesalers are selfish for charging a premium on the manufacturer's prices.

Iirc the PS2 launch was somewhat of a disaster as well, with less consoles than even MS released with the X360. Then there was the PSP...

Profiting out of market situations is a cornerstone of the capitalist market. If you don't like it, then, well there's not much you can do other than move to Cuba. Even China barely resembles a communist community, because it simply doesn't work.
 
Its a mixed bag with selling them on eBay half the people either couldnt be bothered to pre-order or didnt think about pre-ordering, the other half are people who are missing out on a pre-order by the 1st batch so they bombard you with abusive questions.

The only good thing that could happen is people flood eBay with PS3's thus making them abit cheaper than the easily 100% mark up, Xbox 360s where going for £800-900 on the first day of the launch.

I am not even going to tell anybody if I have one or two pre-ordered I got treated like scum when I had two 360s pre-ordered.
 
I'm definatly going to get 1 or 2 to flog on the bay. Nice little earner tbh.

Cheets, I remember you saying you'd be happy with £380 for your second 360 and you ended up getting a lot more. :p

I can see the PS3's topping the 1k mark on ebay come november.
 
There is always the fact that people are already moaning that its 425 quid. I don't think people will be paying that much over the odds for them on ebay, although i may be proved wrong.
 
DailyGeek said:
There is always the fact that people are already moaning that its 425 quid. I don't think people will be paying that much over the odds for them on ebay, although i may be proved wrong.
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360's were going for £800 just after launch. :p
 
georges said:
They still have PAL with HD games?
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The console can still output the image in non-HD. So although there is no such thing as PAL HD there is still PAL in SD.

It is tempting to pre-order and sell on ebay because it's just such an easy way of making money. It's not very fair but it's hard to resist making easy and legal money, even if it is a bit morally dubious.
 
Anders0n said:
I'm definatly going to get 1 or 2 to flog on the bay. Nice little earner tbh.

Cheets, I remember you saying you'd be happy with £380 for your second 360 and you ended up getting a lot more. :p

I can see the PS3's topping the 1k mark on ebay come november.
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It went for £530, twas a Premium and that was a week after launch.
 
After some more thought, i can see how ordering 2 PS3s can be slightly selfish. If i ordered one then sold that one on ebay, it wouldnt be any different from ordering one and keeping it, as either way thats one less PS3 in the shops.
Now if i do order two, then thats one extra PS3 missing from the shops that i could never possibly need. (apart from making money from it). Times that by the number of people with the same idea as me and thats a lot of PS3s being bought just to make money on, meaning less for the people who want one at retail price to actually keep.
But theres one thing that makes this almost irrelivent, which is the fact that waiting a few more months to get a PS3 is not gonna kill anyone. The 360 and maybe the Wii will be in plentiful supply at the end of the year.
The only people who might actually be upset by mine and others actions are the few (added) kids who dont get their PS3 on Christmas day. Boohoo. Enjoy your Xbox :p
 
bigbilly50 said:
How is he trying to rip anyone off ? I assume that his buyer will know the price in advance and that they know what the they are getting for the money. If individuals are willing to pay extortionate prices then its up to them and its certainly no reason to accuse someone of 'trying to rip people off'
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OF course its ripping someone off

If someone buys two through pre-order system ONLY to make money off them (excessively) then thats just making the high price of the console ( which everyone is against) that much worse

Why people cant just buy what they actually want to use personally without being greedy is beyond me.

This is one reason why the world is in such a sorry state that it is.
 
Johanson said:
After some more thought, i can see how ordering 2 PS3s can be slightly selfish. If i ordered one then sold that one on ebay, it wouldnt be any different from ordering one and keeping it, as either way thats one less PS3 in the shops.
Now if i do order two, then thats one extra PS3 missing from the shops that i could never possibly need. (apart from making money from it). Times that by the number of people with the same idea as me and thats a lot of PS3s being bought just to make money on, meaning less for the people who want one at retail price to actually keep.
But theres one thing that makes this almost irrelivent, which is the fact that waiting a few more months to get a PS3 is not gonna kill anyone. The 360 and maybe the Wii will be in plentiful supply at the end of the year.
The only people who might actually be upset by mine and others actions are the few (added) kids who dont get their PS3 on Christmas day. Boohoo. Enjoy your Xbox :p
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You are making two bad situations worse;

1) the original high price of the console, which everyone is against is being made worse by bayers like yourself - who dont actually want one they just want easy money ( ever thought of actually EARNING it for a change?)

2) The highly limited amount of consoles before Xmas is being made even worse because people who dont actually want one are buying multiple units, therefore even less to go around for those who to use them.

The point of having to wait months is irrelevant - 1stly its Xmas, whats the point of getting your Xmas present in March??????

I really hope those who do this SCAM are the ones who get burnt severely, I would certainly support any manufacturer who put in the licence " This unit must not be sold privately for X months, and anyone who does so will have legal proceedings applied"

That would stop bayers from their scams pretty quickly and get the merchandise to those who originally wanted it in the first place
 
FrankJH said:
1) the original high price of the console, which everyone is against is being made worse by bayers like yourself - who dont actually want one they just want easy money ( ever thought of actually EARNING it for a change?)
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He would be earning it.
Investments can be a job, it's much like gambling and he would be earning his money. Personally I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to take the risk in buying several to sell. I won't be doing it because I will have a pre-order down with many many stores and if I get 1 I will be happy.

I've had a launch console on every day since the Nintendo64.
 
FrankJH said:
You are making two bad situations worse;

1) the original high price of the console, which everyone is against is being made worse by bayers like yourself - who dont actually want one they just want easy money ( ever thought of actually EARNING it for a change?)
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Earning money for a change? Ive had the same job since i was 15. Don't jump to conclusions. I think some of you are exaggerating this with comments like "leach on society" and "making the world a bad place" and whatever. Its a games console, there are other games consoles. You cant get this one til January? So what! Some of you are making it sound as if im stealing from people.
And you dont even know where that profit i make might go. Look at the bigger picture. For example, that money might go towards a car, which could lead to a better job/more choice in higher education etc etc, and an infinate number of possibilities!
This arguement is pointless anyway, im still planning on doing it.

Oh, and just think about the irony of saying that people won't be able to get their Christmas present because of some greedy capitalist 'scammers' making some money for themselves. Afterall, has Christmas not become one big money-making materialistic event? There is a huge commercial side to it.
Im sure i worded that wrong, but you get what i mean hopefully.
 
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NokkonWud said:
He would be earning it.
Investments can be a job, it's much like gambling and he would be earning his money. Personally I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to take the risk in buying several to sell. I won't be doing it because I will have a pre-order down with many many stores and if I get 1 I will be happy.

I've had a launch console on every day since the Nintendo64.
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I have no issue with someone reserving however many on pre-order , collecting one and (preferably) telling other stores you dont need the rest.

You want one ( and you are putting down multiple deposits to prove it) and so there is no issue.

the other guy ISNT earning the money - its not much better than blackmail or kidnap, still getting a big payoff for something that isnt his in the first place and he dont actually want. Its holding someone (the buyer) for ransom
 
FrankJH said:
This is one reason why the world is in such a sorry state that it is.
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Isnt buying and selling for profit, one of the reasons that we in the west are wealthy and can afford to pay for expensive toys in the first place?
 
I dont understand why people are labelling some selfish for wanting to buy two and resell on ebay. Some think it is selfish and some call it leeching...
Erm, this is a first world, our economy was build on capitalism, which others who dont agree with will clearly label it leeching too.
This guys aint breaking the rules and they hurting no one, so for god sake set aside the moral non-sense, we live in a capitalist economy.
If i have the money, i will buy all the first batch and flog everything off to make more money.
 
they should just shut ebay and all the auction sites down, they are full of scammers and rip off merchants with their over inflated prices and fake goods. Gone are the good days where you could walk into a store and buy something new just out, instead you gotta go to ebay and pay some over the odd prices or wait.

I persoanlly hate these people too, be it right or wrong, these people just make others more unhappy just because they have the extra cash to plonk down on pre-orders, then boast about how much profit they make.
 
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