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The local drug dealer I assume. An expensive day out.
Someone posted a picture of the same car on Reddit, it was advertising Sedgley Group which claims to be a prestige car dealership in Manchester. Guessing it could be used in advertising their business.
 
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It’s a decent car but I’m personally having endless issues with it.


The bigger problem is that I could only get a single garage within reasonable distance to look at it before March.


They were either booked up or didn’t have the ability to diagnose electric cars
What happened to yours?

I'm weighing up whether to sale off my petrol Kodiak VRS or not...
 
Wow youve got a proper friday afternoon car there, looks its was one of those that was subbed out to a peugeot factory:p

@Sirrel Squirrel Mines been pukka so far, had a few paint blemishes that VW sorted out, the wipers were crap, which again have been sorted. Just a rattle in the passenger side to resolve. But all in all a trouble free introduction to EV life.
 
it's funny I don't get why there are lemon cars given they are machine made.

But I had one as well.

my 1st fiat coupe 20vt was fantastic, I crashed it at 120k miles still on factory turbo and other than radiator,.brakes, exhaust, tyres and battery (oh and routine cambelt replacement) barely anything failed.

then after writing that off I bought a 20vt+ which on paper was better in every way.

it had done 60k miles but a warranty engine replacement at 40K along with new turbo.

and it gave me nothing but trouble. clutch,.gearbox, turbo and i got shut of it around 105k and I sold it with another blown turbo on it. a year later the buyer message me telling me it had had a complete electrics failure.
 
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So you cant embed videos and Vicki Butler-henderson mentions Gibbo? Whilst you also cant summarise the video?
didn't clutter up column inches with embed video
more practical than mini electric, frequency adaptive dampers, like juniperM3/id7, thicker roll bars, and scenic's more powerful motor over r5 , disliked vectored torque, w/wheel braking versus having a lsd;
brakes off a190 didn't say if like taycan more of a friction brake feel/bias.
vicki has some racing pedigree (like other 5th gear crew) unlike majority of youtube journalists , handled well on it's custom michelin (5? compound) rubber.

future classic ? something that will appreciate ... so might be on gibbo's radar ?
 
Got a Mini EV approved/used (2021 model) for an alright price, happy with it so far!

Last night I tried to set mine to charge in the Mini app from 23:30 - 05:30 (set departure time without pre-conditioning to 05:30) but it carried on charging beyond that time.

When I checked it at 08:00 it had practically drained my house battery to 20% or so. So it thought it still needed to charge (which it did as it wasn't full but I can't set a target % or similar here).

At this point I added to Intelligent Go tariff successfully, for people on Intelligent Go, how do the bespoke charging slots work exactly?

I plugged it back in at 09:05 and then it offered these charging slots below, which is basically 09:06 - 11:00.

Does this mean all my house usage in these windows is at the 7p/kWh off-peak rate?

Can they pull these slots if the car completes the charge in say the 2nd one?

If I adjust the parameters of the desired time/charge is it likely to adjust the windows offered?

I left the car plugged in to experiment with what it would do, and occasionally it would add a new 30 min window immediately, and of course this then drains my house battery into the car again as I haven't configured that any differently.

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pants had the same thing with my car. set to be ready at 5:30am and got up this morning and car has totally flattened the house battery.
it has never happened before. I wonder if this is related to the experiment myenergi did where they manually controlled charging for 30 mins on Thursday night (or was it Friday night).
 
Got a Mini EV approved/used (2021 model) for an alright price, happy with it so far!

Last night I tried to set mine to charge in the Mini app from 23:30 - 05:30 (set departure time without pre-conditioning to 05:30) but it carried on charging beyond that time.

When I checked it at 08:00 it had practically drained my house battery to 20% or so. So it thought it still needed to charge (which it did as it wasn't full but I can't set a target % or similar here).

At this point I added to Intelligent Go tariff successfully, for people on Intelligent Go, how do the bespoke charging slots work exactly?

I plugged it back in at 09:05 and then it offered these charging slots below, which is basically 09:06 - 11:00.

Does this mean all my house usage in these windows is at the 7p/kWh off-peak rate?

Can they pull these slots if the car completes the charge in say the 2nd one?

If I adjust the parameters of the desired time/charge is it likely to adjust the windows offered?

I left the car plugged in to experiment with what it would do, and occasionally it would add a new 30 min window immediately, and of course this then drains my house battery into the car again as I haven't configured that any differently.

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I always set my 'ready by time' to finish before my house battery is set to start discharging :)

"Does this mean all my house usage in these windows is at the 7p/kWh off-peak rate?!
Yes
 
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The issue is that your battery sees your EV charger as a demand and fills it.

Can you not move your CT clamps so the battery can't fulfil any demand from the EV charger? That is the simplest and easiest way of solving this issue.
 
The issue is that your battery sees your EV charger as a demand and fills it.

Can you not move your CT clamps so the battery can't fulfil any demand from the EV charger? That is the simplest and easiest way of solving this issue.
I don't think you can do that with a hybrid inverter can you?
I must admit it is something I struggle with. generally I just don't plug the car in until the house battery is flat and in summer if I need more than a 6 hour charge (where my house battery is set to charge anyway) I have to manually log into my inverter to stop it discharging in extra slots.

I think the generally accepted best way is to use home assistant with a raspberry pi which can automatically set your house battery to charge every time you are in an IOG slot and your car is charging... however I have not got around to trying to figure that out yet.
 
I don't think you can do that with a hybrid inverter can you?
I must admit it is something I struggle with. generally I just don't plug the car in until the house battery is flat and in summer if I need more than a 6 hour charge (where my house battery is set to charge anyway) I have to manually log into my inverter to stop it discharging in extra slots.

I think the generally accepted best way is to use home assistant with a raspberry pi which can automatically set your house battery to charge every time you are in an IOG slot and your car is charging... however I have not got around to trying to figure that out yet.
Yes, your hybrid inverter will absolutely have a CT clamp, that is how they know how to use the battery to fulfil any loads.

Installers typically just clip them around the main tail so they monitor the entire installation but as you have found out, that is not ideal if you have an EV charger.

If your EV charger is on its own consumer unit, you can usually move your CT clamp so your hybrid inverter can't 'see' the load from the EV charger.

I mocked this up on pain many moons ago:

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EDIT: Ideally you would also use something like Home Assistant (or a cloud based service) so you can charge the battery using additional IO slots but the above is mainly about preventing your battery emptying itself into the car.
 
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I think the generally accepted best way is to use home assistant with a raspberry pi which can automatically set your house battery to charge every time you are in an IOG slot and your car is charging... however I have not got around to trying to figure that out yet.

That's what I do.

During the day my car is plugged in and the charger is disabled. If you've a wife that's running a washing machine, tumble drier, 4 x electric hobs and 2 x ovens you end up having a flat battery before lunchtime! When my battery is at 5% HA turns on the charger. This usually triggers IOG into giving me a cheap charging slot that I use to charge the car and battery back up.
 
@HungryHippos @bigmike20vt

I joined the club yesterday as well, collected my 3 year old E-Niro 4+, and set the car to charge off peak, what I forgot to do was to adjust my battery charging schedule to allow for the extra load of the EV granny charger (I haven't got a proper charge point yet), so my house batteries charged much slower, but at least I did have 72% SOC on the house batteries this morning which will see us through the day.

I'll alter my charger algorithm to take account of house load - I've never had a heavy load overnight before, so it was predictable.
 
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@HungryHippos @bigmike20vt

I joined the club yesterday as well, collected my 3 year old E-Niro 4+, and set the car to charge off peak, what I forgot to do was to adjust my battery charging schedule to allow for the extra load of the EV granny charger (I haven't got a proper charge point yet), so my house batteries charged much slower, but at least I did have 72% SOC on the house batteries this morning which will see us through the day.

I'll alter my charger algorithm to take account of house load - I've never had a heavy load overnight before, so it was predictable.

Is your car compatible with Intelligent? If so then anytime you plug it in, the smart charge schedule will give you cheap import electric if Octopus charges the car.

The pain is also aligning how the house battery works outside of the normal slots, as in my case the house battery will then drain into the car unless I tell it to charge as well (which is also useful here as you can get extra charge slots in the day this way).

Very happy with my EV so far, it fits my usage scenario nicely as I do more shorter journeys, but there is enough range to get out and about some. It's more costly to buy, and the tax changes next year kind of suck, but I should be able to "fuel" it for basically no cost.

"Does this mean all my house usage in these windows is at the 7p/kWh off-peak rate?!
Yes

Nice, but I do note that they can adjust the slots a bit on the fly, and if the car completes charging they can totally pull them. I need to see how this actually bills me I suppose, but this is just early days and learning how the ad-hoc slots work from Intelligent.

Next up I need to work out how I want to charge long term. I have a normal outdoor plug, but I'd probably need a 10M extension lead to charge the car from it. I could get a plug put in nearer but it will cost some $$$ to do via an electrician.

I don't think I need a proper charger yet, and my fusebox is quite far away from where the car is, so granny charger might just be the move for now.

I can probably charge it up once a week at work for free, will find out how that works next week. My colleagues with EV's say they don't have to pay anything to use it. Company must fund it.
 
pants had the same thing with my car. set to be ready at 5:30am and got up this morning and car has totally flattened the house battery.
it has never happened before. I wonder if this is related to the experiment myenergi did where they manually controlled charging for 30 mins on Thursday night (or was it Friday night).
I have to hold my hands up and say "my bad!"
it would seem at some point during my 15 pints birthday gaming session last night when I was checking my car charging I must have fat fingered the eco slider and accidentally lowered it to 20% which then messed up my export margin protection.
so this one is totally on me!.
 
I rang Octopus and they said yes.
We normally plug the EV in around 8pm and it always gives us 21.30 to 05.30 so that's when the wife puts the washer and tumble dryer on.
it was amazing yesterday. the house battery went flat by 5:00pm and both my wifes and my car needed a good old charge , we ended up with 7p electric from 5:00pm right through the evening.

quite handy as I had a gaming session with my power thirsty gaming pc

admittedly my messup with the myenergi app flattening my house battery this morning has reduced my savings a little bit but cest la vie!
 
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Tempted to get a Tesla via business lease. We are in the middle of applying for a mortgage and moving home so had the idea to sell our current car to free up cash towards the move. What I can’t get confirmation of is if we take out a HP via the business (limited company, over 3 years old), does it affect our personal credit? Is it all sandboxed to the business?

If we took out a new credit that appeared on our personal files now then it would cause pain for the mortgage.
 
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