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Kill_Phil said:
It's all getting a bit silly now isn't it. I don't think anyone is saying EVs are a drivers car and in turn better than an Elise or Cayman for handling. The point the other two are making is just that there are better handling EVs than an i4?

e.g seeing as the Xiaomi SU7 holds the fastest ev road legal nurburgring lap, posting close to 7min, I assume it handles quite well

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Exactly. It got very silly fairly quickly because a few people dared to politely correct a few of their misconceptions. They inadvertently setup their EV ownership experience to fail and are now blaming the EV for that failure.

I just don’t think people like being told they made a monumental mistake and it was their own fault due to lack of research.

It’s like buying a screwdriver to hammer in a nail and when it inevitably and very predictably fails, declaring “all screwdrivers suck and I wouldn’t buy one even if I needed to screw in a screw”. It all just seems a bit silly to watch it unfold.
 
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Ironically talking about when an EV is and isn’t a suitable option is more on topic than preheat schedules.

But yes, let’s move on.
 
ICDP said:
They inadvertently setup their EV ownership experience to fail and are now blaming the EV for that failure.

I just don’t think people like being told they made a monumental mistake and it was their own fault due to lack of research.
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This is wrong as well.
My office with 10 free EV chargers is a mile from my house, so ownership was not blighted by any lack of charging options.
As I said right at the start, it was the long business and pleasure trips in the depths of winter that were the horror show.
A trip to Swanage to see old schoolfriends last new year required a lot of charging, involved a lot of faff and put hours on an already tiring 600 mile roundtrip.
 
I was just being a tit lol.

Ultimately, if EVs work for you, they're ace. I personally don't see myself going back to an ICE. Unless I won a significant wedge of money and running costs weren't a concern...
But if they don't work for you and you don't have the ability to charge up from home reliably then ICE is properly vastly superior from a practicality point of view.

I've been around 3.6 miles/kWh the last few days on my commute. Mostly motorway for around 14 miles each way
 
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Rroff said:
Dunno what the 2 PP is like (so I may be wrong when it comes to that model) but I can't say from my experience with other Polestar models I'd particularly call the Polestar engaging to drive to be brutally honest - that isn't to say it is bad but doesn't have that satisfaction on an open bit of road you can get from some cars (while still being safe and legal).
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I wouldn't necessarily say any EV is that engaging in my opinion. The P2 PP is less frenetic than a Tesla Model 3 Performance but the ride quality with the adjustable Ohlins is staggeringly good to me! Complaint and planted. The lethargic throttle map probably lends itself to a more laid back drive.

I don't have many EV to compare against but did have a i5 touring and iX1 for a day each and can't say I was smitten with either of those. I was looking at a i4 M50 at that time which the dealerships down here were clearly not interested in selling cars. Was a struggle to buy a car from them.

I do like the fact Polestar/Volvo are allowing you to upgrade your IHU to the newest snapdragon though...
 
I find, anyone who comes up to me and says:
"Your Tesla is stupid, supporting a Nazi Musk, Its an electric toy, Get an ICE, Much cheaper"

Are just jealous that they don't have the facility to charge at home, too poor to buy one, or just a prat.

My Model Y is the BEST car I've owned. I've saved ££££ in "fuel" costs in my less than a years ownership.
 
Kenai said:
Is this a common occurrence for you?
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Since buying it, I've had around a dozen people make comments.

I had one scruffy looking twonk shout at me when I was driving with my window open.. "NAZI"
That was fun.

Oh and another chap keyed it near my kids swimming lessons.

People are just jelly of things they don't or cannot own.
 
The only 2 comments I've had on my tesla are "How are you finding it?" and some guy just asking how I've found the EV experience in general as he was looking to change his company car.

I have been told I have quite an angry/miserable face when I'm minding my own business so perhaps that's keeping the nazi comments at bay
 
My DPD delivery guy ive seen a couple of times now, Nigeria chap absolutely loves my Jaaaaaag. "Man, dat car is so bootiful" "Ill come collet it later" etc. Guess thats one benefit, never get any grief :D
 
One annoying thing that I've just figured out on the Kona, scheduled climate control only works if it's plugged in :o

You can manually trigger it from the app still but I'd set up the schedule so in theory my wife doesn't have to remember that while wrestling a toddler out of the house in the mornings
 
turbot1984 said:
This is wrong as well.
My office with 10 free EV chargers is a mile from my house, so ownership was not blighted by any lack of charging options.
As I said right at the start, it was the long business and pleasure trips in the depths of winter that were the horror show.
A trip to Swanage to see old schoolfriends last new year required a lot of charging, involved a lot of faff and put hours on an already tiring 600 mile roundtrip.
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When I had the Polestar 2, I remember we stayed in a holiday cottage in devon that had a 7kw charger in the garage. That made the trip very easy to explore, as I could charge every night if needed.

That was a 600 mile roundtrip to even get there and back. I don't remember what charging was like there and back but it can't have been too traumatic - Though the Polestar did charge pretty slow. Usually took about 40-45 mins

Now I wouldn't even think about it, the charging infrastructure has come along way in 5 years and my GV70 charges very rapidly (10-80% in 18 mins) and my ix3 will have more range and charge even quicker than that.

The main thing that has changed is that the cost to charge out and about is now extortionate. In 2021 it was a pittance.
 
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turbot1984 said:
This is wrong as well.
My office with 10 free EV chargers is a mile from my house, so ownership was not blighted by any lack of charging options.
As I said right at the start, it was the long business and pleasure trips in the depths of winter that were the horror show.
A trip to Swanage to see old schoolfriends last new year required a lot of charging, involved a lot of faff and put hours on an already tiring 600 mile roundtrip.
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And any half honest and experienced EV owner would have told you that regular trips in winter up to 600 miles, with no home charging is a bad idea, but still doable. Again every time you post it becomes clearer you did no research. Yet somehow your lack of preparation is the EVs fault.

Please, please, please… any people out there reading this and considering an EV, take note of what happens when you don’t do even basic research. You WILL almost certainly hate your EV experience if you don’t have home charging. Especially if you expect to do 600 mile pleasure trips in winter and don’t have access to destination charging.
 
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ICDP said:
Especially if you expect to do 600 mile pleasure trips in winter and don’t have access to destination charging.
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Over Christmas we took our ID.3 to the UK, 700km this side to the ferry port, another 800km in England visiting friends and family, and 700km back. All without any destination charging. It was just fine. The only issue we had on the whole trip was that the Oxford services had signs up for a bank of chargers that hadn't actually been opened yet and we ended up taking a half hour side quest to sort out charging as we arrived just in time to see the charger at the McD's we were aiming for getting taken and had to find a third place to stop. Next year it'll be better and easier.

The difficulties of these trips are exaggerated, IMO: minor difficulties or delays rather than any major obstacle to a comfortable journey.
 
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