EV general discussion

[jpaul]

20minutes ice fuel time (maybe I do that a month) sounds like it's from a ev manufacturers benefits book, possibly Zeekr with their new 900V brag.

similarly, the £1500/pa saving theory if you incorporate insurance cost uptick as tome_e said and depreciation
(don't know about others, but petrol cars in the 5-10yr ages seem like the prices are standing still , from local dealers & mine,
not in real terms though)

 

[lordrobs]

Takes me about 45 minutes to fill the Mazda, sometimes longer if it's a nice evening, normally via a 20 mile detour through some nice country lanes *chefs kiss*.

 

[Rroff]

Its 22 mins total just driving to and from my local station not including filling or paying. Assuming no queue and there often is, either at the pump or paying. No way I can do it the usual "1min" thats claimed. Its 30 mins to and from my preferred station not including filling or paying. Though that one I usually pay at the pump. Usually no queue. I usually fill the tank when it hits red. Never timed it, but I doubt that takes only a minute. Maybe it does.

"...Pumping Fuel: Between 2 and 3 minutes to actually dispense the fuel for a typical 40–55 litre tank. Standard UK pumps generally flow at a rate of approximately 30 to 45 litres per minute..."

I assume that that people don't maintain 100% flow 100% of the time.

Current situation aside most people don't brim their tanks either - a lot of my colleagues for example bounce between like the start of the red line and a quarter tank.

EDIT: I have to sometimes send colleagues back out to put fuel in work vehicles as they tend to instinctively apply the same thinking as their own cars but we have a policy of returning with half a tank minimum. (Sometimes it is just down to laziness and thinking they will get away with it but not always).

 

[ICDP]

The thing is you can limit the impact by having other tasks such as shopping. That applies to not fossil or electric energy.

So when people tell me it only takes five minutes to fill up their car with fuel, they look perplexed when I reply with a “bloody hell that’s ages”. I then go on to explain it takes me only 20 seconds to charge, 10 seconds to plug it in at night and another 10 to unplug it in the morning.

 

[ICDP]

Takes me about 45 minutes to fill the Mazda, sometimes longer if it's a nice evening, normally via a 20 mile detour through some nice country lanes *chefs kiss*.

What a total waste of time… I would much prefer to watch my favourite TV shows while sitting at a rapid charger for 45 minutes… bliss

 

[TheVoice]

Current situation aside most people don't brim their tanks either - a lot of my colleagues for example bounce between like the start of the red line and a quarter tank.

EDIT: I have to sometimes send colleagues back out to put fuel in work vehicles as they tend to instinctively apply the same thinking as their own cars but we have a policy of returning with half a tank minimum. (Sometimes it is just down to laziness and thinking they will get away with it but not always).

I think the only times I ever didn't fill the tank in my petrol cars was if I knew I'd be at or near somewhere cheaper in the near future, otherwise it was always a full tank mainly for the sake of convenience. Do the people putting £20 or whatever in each time do it because psychologically it seems cheaper?

 

[Rroff]

I think the only times I ever didn't fill the tank in my petrol cars was if I knew I'd be at or near somewhere cheaper in the near future, otherwise it was always a full tank mainly for the sake of convenience. Do the people putting £20 or whatever in each time do it because psychologically it seems cheaper?

No idea on the psychology behind it, as I live in a rural area I tend to keep a decent amount in the tank personally, usually fill right up when I do, and generally stick around half a tank in at a time.

 

[Diddums]

In my younger and thicker days I used to put in £20 at a time because I lived literally about 200m from a petrol station and thought I was saving money by not dragging around tons of fuel all the time.

I then grew the **** up and now fill up every time as life's too short to be fart arsing around with such faffery.

 

[JustBen]

My Tesla model 3 has a new issue off squeaking when turning steering wheel, only seems to from the left front. It almost makes the noise of something rubbing against the leather but I got my lad to check the noise and it's noticeable outside so not my fat arse.
Yet another service appointment with Tesla to be booked.

 

[tamzzy]

My Tesla model 3 has a new issue off squeaking when turning steering wheel, only seems to from the left front. It almost makes the noise of something rubbing against the leather but I got my lad to check the noise and it's noticeable outside so not my fat arse.
Yet another service appointment with Tesla to be booked.

those are the front control arm ball joints/bushes wearing out. very common on the model 3.
if it's under warranty, tesla will only replace the affected side.

worth paying tesla to swap out the right side too as they'll used the redesigned control arm if swapping in pairs: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-model-3-front-upper-control-arms.315140/

 

[kefkef]

In my younger and thicker days I used to put in £20 at a time because I lived literally about 200m from a petrol station and thought I was saving money by not dragging around tons of fuel all the time.

I then grew the **** up and now fill up every time as life's too short to be fart arsing around with such faffery.

I worked as a lansdcaper after leaving college, my old boss did this all the time, every day we would end up going to the petrol station at some point, he was convinced he was saving money by not carrying around fuel he didn't need!.... We must have broken down on the m'way 10+ times running out of fuel too!

 

[Martynt74]

Finally about to sort out the new car. Had a nightmare getting approved through the dealer finance here in Spain but have sorted a bank loan now. Was debating between the BYD Atto 3 EVO and the new Mustang Mach E (albeit for €5k more), however it doesn't seem the Mustang supports V2H and that's a big factor in going electric as backup for our off grid house. Sadly the same issue with the Cupra Tavascan

The BYD is also much better specced so it seems the sensible option. Just a bit boring to look at

 

[pastymuncher]

Went down to Aberdeen with my neighbour in her 23 plate Corsa yesterday to pick up a new cat for her. God I do not miss ICE powered cars at all. It didn't help that she is a awful driver and I was going for a invisible brake pedal a lot. The car is noisy, gutless (1.2L) and the ride is rock hard. It sits so low I had to pull myself out using the edge of the roof and door pillar (I am 6'2"). We stopped at a small shopping park and I noticed they had four chargers so went over out of curiosity to have a look at the prices, 76p per kWh plus a 25p connection fee. From what I have seen the kWh price is typical up here but I have never seen a connection fee before. Is this a new thing that is going to spread?

 

[Shadowness]

So you're basing your 'don't miss ICE' on a terrible experience in, let's face it, an incredibly average car with a tiny engine?

If she was picking up an M3 would you still have the same opinion?

 

[Journey]

So you're basing your 'don't miss ICE' on a terrible experience in, let's face it, an incredibly average car with a tiny engine?

You mean the vast majority of ICE cars on the road then? Puma's Cashcow's, Golf's, Corsa's etc. all very average cars sold in droves.

 

[TheVoice]

We stopped at a small shopping park and I noticed they had four chargers so went over out of curiosity to have a look at the prices, 76p per kWh plus a 25p connection fee. From what I have seen the kWh price is typical up here but I have never seen a connection fee before. Is this a new thing that is going to spread?

I think some of the Charge Place Scotland ones have a connection fee. I've yet to encounter any chargers with a connection or minimum fee though. In Scotland, Arnold Clark Charge are probably the best value at 55p (other than Tesla or subscription-specific pricing) though they're not always ideally located.

 

[Simon]

I dont miss driving a milk float either.

 

[m4rmite]

I dont miss driving a milk float either.

I didn't know you were a milkman

 

[Shadowness]

You mean the vast majority of ICE cars on the road then? Puma's Cashcow's, Golf's, Corsa's etc. all very average cars sold in droves.

ah yes because EVs are famed for their driving experience and handling

Surely if you get in a 'bog standard' EV, it wouldn't be that much better? Or is that pretty much the only thing EVs have over ICE cars (in terms of drivability) is that even low powered ones are relatively quick?

 

[lordrobs]

Went down to Aberdeen with my neighbour in her 23 plate Corsa yesterday to pick up a new cat for her. God I do not miss ICE powered cars at all. It didn't help that she is a awful driver and I was going for a invisible brake pedal a lot. The car is noisy, gutless (1.2L) and the ride is rock hard. It sits so low I had to pull myself out using the edge of the roof and door pillar (I am 6'2"). We stopped at a small shopping park and I noticed they had four chargers so went over out of curiosity to have a look at the prices, 76p per kWh plus a 25p connection fee. From what I have seen the kWh price is typical up here but I have never seen a connection fee before. Is this a new thing that is going to spread?

To be fair most of that still applies to the Corsa-e. A car I've driven and has all the composure of a bucking bronco at motorway speeds.