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b0rn2sk8 said:
Scam. Look at their other listings.
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I am confused to be honest (it doesn't take much mind you) but they would be better off pricing more sensibly just knocking 1k off the going rate that way it does not scream scammer.

however how does this scam work? will the cars all have HP on the. or something because they are collect in person. does eBay not recover costs if classifieds are scams?
 
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VincentHanna said:
A great 2 year lease deal came up for a GV70 electric + Innovation pack, which looked surprisingly good.

Then you look at the specs list and they don't even include heated front seats! On a £65,000 'premium' SUV

Also the range is pretty much the same as my Polestar 2 - Though unlike that it does have an 800v system and DC fast charges at 240Kw (my Polestar doesn't get anywhere near that)

Shame, the fully specced up model with V2L, panoramic roof etc looks decent. Not sure if they are adding wireless android auto (I know the Ionic 5N is getting it) but that would be good also.
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Non of the Genesis EV models come with heated seats, and you can’t spec it separately, outside of a 3k comfort or innovation related pack.
It’s the same with adaptive cruise - that needs another Tech pack ticked.

All this pushes up the monthly price by another £150-£200
 
seems like the new prius is back on, whether Japanese think the rules of origin/ will be creating problems for the full bev market so they have more market opportunity,
or bev delays by it's competitors like stellantis/ford.

Had read it's transmission/body is giving near bev pure electric efficiency versus most/all of the phev market , albeit not yet at those 60/100mile milestone levels.

cardealermagazine.co.uk

Toyota reverses plans for fifth-generation Prius and says new car WILL now be sold in the UK – Car Dealer Magazine

Toyota has reversed its decision not to sell the new Prius in the UK as the model's popularity continues to stay high. The Japanese brand announced at the
cardealermagazine.co.uk
They have performed a U-turn on the previous decision and are now planning on selling the model here after all, albeit only in a plug-in hybrid guise.
 
I would buy that. Slightly disagree with his comment that on the inside it looks more high market than an £80k car. That kind of money gets you a Taycan or E-tron GT. both interiors look more high end than the Caterham.
 
article I'd read on that Prius's phenomenal efficiency - which blew away my pre-conception that phev cvt gearbox that can combine ICE&electric drive are inefficient.
(maybe article is bs)


As on the regular Prius, the Prime upgrades its gas engine from a 1.8-liter I-4 to a bigger 2.0-liter four-cylinder. Along with a new drive motor and lithium-ion battery, the Prime enjoys a huge boost in power from 121 hp to 220 ponies combined. Yes, it's much quicker than before. Electric-only driving range rises, too, from 25 miles before to up to 44 miles. When operating as a hybrid, its EPA combined fuel economy rating is a massive 52 mpg. On electrons, it's still efficient, with up to 127 mpg-e—not far off from the earlier rear-drive Model 3's 132 mpg-e. To fill the Prime back up, you can visit your local dino-juice dispensary or any 120-volt household power outlet or 240-volt Level 2 hookup. Go with the latter, and your expected charge time is four hours; go with the former, and you'll wait overnight, about 11 hours
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Greebo said:
I would buy that. Slightly disagree with his comment that on the inside it looks more high market than an £80k car. That kind of money gets you a Taycan or E-tron GT. both interiors look more high end than the Caterham.
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Looks great inside better than a Taycan IMO, but I like simple things, I'd like to see what the Germans manage in a 1200kg EV, that is ~50% less than those behemoths.
 
jpaul said:
article I'd read on that Prius's phenomenal efficiency - which blew away my pre-conception that phev cvt gearbox that can combine ICE&electric drive are inefficient.
(maybe article is bs)

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It’s not cvt.

Road drive PHEVs have no reason to be less efficient, they are generally lighter and the motor is more appropriately sized for cruise.

It’s just that your preconception was so wrong that you were blew away, really the physics of through the road hybrids is well understood by engineers way ahead of a motortrend article.
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
It’s not cvt.
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genuinely educate me on what it is then ?
I thought it was traditional satellite gear type gearbox from toyota which gives variable gearing off of the ICE & motot(ok not a cvt with 2 cones and a drive belt - an e'cvt)
- rather than a zf(bmw/merc) where the torque convertor is replaced by a motor on the drive side,
but for either design if they are approaching bev efficiency, that was news to me,
and, those discussing the upcoming 2035 phev rules, few pages back, and comments on the phev battery size needed currently and for 100mile target they will then have.

(the honda e-power range extender type idea - where ICE can drive wheels at high revs, I can see those might be efficient, but didn'y know toyota was that)
 
jpaul said:
genuinely educate me on what it is then ?
I thought it was traditional satellite gear type gearbox from toyota which gives variable gearing off of the ICE & motot(ok not a cvt with 2 cones and a drive belt - an e'cvt)
- rather than a zf(bmw/merc) where the torque convertor is replaced by a motor on the drive side,
but for either design if they are approaching bev efficiency, that was news to me,
and, those discussing the upcoming 2035 phev rules, few pages back, and comments on the phev battery size needed currently and for 100mile target they will then have.
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Satellite gearset firstly needs a planet on the centre. It’s power split more than cvt
 
jpaul said:
genuinely educate me on what it is then ?
I thought it was traditional satellite gear type gearbox from toyota which gives variable gearing off of the ICE & motot(ok not a cvt with 2 cones and a drive belt - an e'cvt)
- rather than a zf(bmw/merc) where the torque convertor is replaced by a motor on the drive side,
but for either design if they are approaching bev efficiency, that was news to me,
and, those discussing the upcoming 2035 phev rules, few pages back, and comments on the phev battery size needed currently and for 100mile target they will then have.

(the honda e-power range extender type idea - where ICE can drive wheels at high revs, I can see those might be efficient, but didn'y know toyota was that)
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A CVT (like other gearboxes with multiple ratios) allows the ratio between the input and output to be changed. The Toyota system has a single fixed ratio between the engine and road wheels so obviously cannot be classed as a CVT.
 
Just been given the tap on the shoulder that it time to order my new car at work (currently driving A3 PHEV)

EV is the only option via Octopus.

New model 3 long range is £200 more expensive that the 2022/3 spec. And about £180 more than Y (not that I want a SUV)

As the list price with Tesla is the same, guess they are clearing stock before pricing it properly.
 
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