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The 55 has the bigger battery, but the PCP prices are all over the place, so this particular model was coming in at the same price as the 50 base spec.
Also, if you go in AT and look at the prices by finance, most 55s are at least £420 a month with 2.5k down, 10k miles per year over 2 years.
 
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SDK^ said:
Over 12 months and still Tesla hasn’t sorted auto wipers :D



The Christmas update also added a 360 4D ’vision‘ system for cars without the radar parking sensors, which still can’t see objects at the front.
We are told Tesla is the leader in car software and tech :cry:
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It's not just a Tesla problem, every car I've owned I've always thought that the auto widescreen wipers are terrible, find myself just doing it manually or turning the auto wipers off!

In my e208 i have to turn the auto wipers on every time i get in the car which is annoying.
 
SDK^ said:
Over 12 months and still Tesla hasn’t sorted auto wipers :D

The Christmas update also added a 360 4D ’vision‘ system for cars without the radar parking sensors, which still can’t see objects at the front.
We are told Tesla is the leader in car software and tech :cry:
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To be fair they are very good at software, but the insistence on trying to use low end cameras with complex software to do functions that are better served by dedicated hardware (lidar, rain sensors, ultrasonic parking sensors) makes them look stupid.

I won’t be replacing my Model 3 with parking sensors for a newer one without.
 
InHuman said:
It's not just a Tesla problem, every car I've owned I've always thought that the auto widescreen wipers are terrible, find myself just doing it manually or turning the auto wipers off!

In my e208 i have to turn the auto wipers on every time i get in the car which is annoying.
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Agree. There is not a single car the auto sensing wiper works properly.

Either too frequent when it is just a drizzle or not fast enough when it is a heavy-ish rain fall.

Works fine when it is torrential, as the wiper just swings frantically and I still can’t see out.
 
pc-guy said:
Agree. There is not a single car the auto sensing wiper works properly.

Either too frequent when it is just a drizzle or not fast enough when it is a heavy-ish rain fall.

Works fine when it is torrential, as the wiper just swings frantically and I still can’t see out.
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I agree they are not perfect however i have had 3 cars with them, a 2011 pug 308, a 2012 nissan QQ and now my ipace. All of them had a fine tune option to configure how agressive they are.

I do find that in some types of rain i have to over ride them, but that said i cant grumble too much and in general i am happy letting the car control them, i would say, 80% of the time. I assume my wifes i3 has them as well but i have not driven that in the wet myself yet to experience them.
 
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pc-guy said:
Agree. There is not a single car the auto sensing wiper works properly.

Either too frequent when it is just a drizzle or not fast enough when it is a heavy-ish rain fall.

Works fine when it is torrential, as the wiper just swings frantically and I still can’t see out.
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The auto wipers in my 1 Series (F20), Golf R, 5 Series (G31), Polestar 2 and iX all function fine.

This is also more than just minor issues - Tesla owners find they don't work at all on rainy days but don't stop wiping on dry sunny days :p
 
SDK^ said:
Over 12 months and still Tesla hasn’t sorted auto wipers :D



The Christmas update also added a 360 4D ’vision‘ system for cars without the radar parking sensors, which still can’t see objects at the front.
We are told Tesla is the leader in car software and tech :cry:
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It can’t see in the front? It has cameras in the top of the windscreen. Yes it doesn’t help low down when close but it uses object persistent to remember what was there as you get close. It actually works really well.

I’ve had several Tesla’s but now dislike how far they have gone.

As another commenter has mentioned them refusing to buy more or better hardware, or even pay for patent usage means they are to solve everything with software, is frustrating.
 
My mum couldn’t get her Audi app working the other day to charge at one of the listed chargers. Just wouldn’t authenticate the charging session.


Ended up having to use as a guest and so payed the max rate. £45 for 200 miles :(
 
old school wipers the best - on some of older bmw's just program the wiper wipe period using the stalk - think it didn't include boot wiper though.

for any ice/ev with electronic door release, need to have a glass hammer - the lesson from the couple trapped in a flooded under-tunnel recently,
thought the ability to disable the electric parking brake was also key if your ev ran out of 12V's.
 
jpaul said:
for any ice/ev with electronic door release, need to have a glass hammer - the lesson from the couple trapped in a flooded under-tunnel recently,
thought the ability to disable the electric parking brake was also key if your ev ran out of 12V's.
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Surely cars with electronic door releases, also need to have a manual overide too?
My iX has a manual door handle in the lower section of the door
 
SDK^ said:
Surely cars with electronic door releases, also need to have a manual overide too?
My iX has a manual door handle in the lower section of the door
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they should (maybe they even do now on new cars?), and indeed the default position of a car in an accident is meant to be to auto unlock anyway...... however there have been a number of cases - usually involving water where they have spectacularly failed, one the one jpaul mentioned but i remember one especially harrowing one, a family of 5 in a car, 2 parents, 2 teens and a baby and the driver managed to accidentally drive down the slope on a dock into the water..... the car wasnt even deep and no one could get out.

luckily one of the windows was open and one of the kids in the back passed the baby out of the window to would be helpers but they could not get the doors open and by the time they smashed the windows to get in the other 4 had all drowned. this was probably a decade or so ago now so those details could be a little off but its not far from the money.
 
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chanjy said:
He is ignoring the cash price and focusing on monthlies and treating it as a lease.
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Yep. I would have handed it back at the end of the 2 years.
But cancelled the deal this morning. Decided I don't want to sell my car in this climate, and deals on EV's will be plentiful in the new year.
 
SDK^ said:
Over 12 months and still Tesla hasn’t sorted auto wipers :D



The Christmas update also added a 360 4D ’vision‘ system for cars without the radar parking sensors, which still can’t see objects at the front.
We are told Tesla is the leader in car software and tech :cry:
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Told by who? Tesla? :D

Their software is Bethesda grade glitchy. Don't rely on their software to keep you safe, that's ******* dangerous.
 
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Nasher said:
Told by who? Tesla? :D

Their software is Bethesda grade glitchy. Don't rely on their software to keep you safe, that's ******* dangerous.
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cool so when will the community made tesla patch come out which fixes all the issues (and add a few more quality of life software features in whilst they are at it? ;) )
 
bigmike20vt said:
cool so when will the community made tesla patch come out which fixes all the issues (and add a few more quality of life software features in whilst they are at it? ;) )
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After someone cracks the software or the source code gets leaked. But the down side to that is they might be able to access them remotely too :)

Actually that already happened. A teenager was able to control them remotely thanks to a bug. Scary.
 
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Nasher said:
Told by who? Tesla? :D
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Told by literally every person who reviews a Tesla car - so, motoring journalists, YouTubers, tech reviewers etc.... Even Chris Harris !
For sure it likely started from Tesla themselves, but if enough people repeat it, then it becomes common knowledge.

Practically every video & post someone makes about a Tesla references the 'superior class leading tech'.
Probably because they have Netflix, some animal & fart noises and a light show mode :p
 
i always used to think tesla technology was pretty amazing... perhaps i was hoodwinked (my friends have had teslas for years)............. or perhaps everyone else has started to catch up, whilst tesla have regressed in the interests of cost cutting.
 
To be fair it’s standard spec list is better than most cars at similar prices, you can just spec other cars with more/better/higher quality features, usually at a higher price point. I guess they say it’s loaded with tech, because compared to most standard cars, it genuinely is.

I’m about 300 miles into the new Model Y and the thing that was of most concern which was the lack of proper parking sensors has turned out to be a bit of a nothing burger for me. I’ve not got the latest update yet so I’ve just got the usual lines on the screen.

The camera based system actually works pretty well when reverse parking which is how I would always park. When I say ‘well’, I mean as well as my Tesla with proper sensors (and any other car I have had with sensors).

I’ve not really used the front yet and I tend to ignore the sensors in my other car anyway because they tell you to stop a good 30-40cm from the object which is not that helpful when you are manoeuvring a large car into a tight space such as parallel parking or driving forward into a space. If you stopped then the sensors said stop, the backend of the car would be handing out of the space.

Compared the model 3, the Y is more refined, more comfortable, the suspension is far better, it’s quieter and better built. Unsurprisingly the 3 is a better ‘drivers car’, the driving position is better (lower) and it goes round corners better, I prefer it on that front but it’s ultimately at the expense of comfort.

However the Y is just a better car over all, from it’s practically to its refinement and it can fit a tow bar so 3 is being moved on.

The ~300hp in the standard range 3 is more than anyone really needs in a car on a public road. The Y is a dual motor and it is just unnecessarily fast for a 2+ ton crossover. I expect going back to say a 200hp car will be problematic once the power becomes normalised….
 
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