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Have a look on some forums and see if the additional interior lighting colours can be added via VCDS coding.

As an example my 2017 Octavia can be upgraded from the standard 9 or 10 colours to 20 or 30 odd using VCDS.

The indicators are probably hardware changes but the interior lights are probably just software.
 
Better winter range.

Cars without some kind of heat scavenging or heat pump system tend to see big range drops in winter.

It’s hard to say how it will effect the i.d3 until they are in the real world.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
In some cars they can also be used to heat the battery which can increase its range but it’s dependent on the specific implementation.
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Indeed most with have the water to refrigerant heat exhangers and valving to manage to manage whole vehicle cooling/warming that makes an AC system into a heat ppump.
 
DanielSon said:
going from a performance model 3 to an i3 is quite a come down. maybe just a std model 3 from china will be a good match. still 260+ miles on a charge.
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The challenge is that 260 miles real world range is actually only 180 miles from 80% full to 10% full which is actually woefully short, and then even with the Superchargers banging 150kW/h into the car you’re still looking at stopping for 30-40 minutes every couple of hours driving. And then Superchargers are relatively expensive so even with a Tesla I’ve always tended to use either Polar or Pod Point rapid chargers that are 15p/kW or 23.5p/kW or even the new Pod Point 7kW chargers that are free at almost every Tesco Superstore now.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Indeed most with have the water to refrigerant heat exhangers and valving to manage to manage whole vehicle cooling/warming that makes an AC system into a heat ppump.
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Since vw one is an add on, that may indicate it doesn't deliver efficiency benefits they have on other cars for taking heat from the batteries into the cabin, but, maybe there is a reliability increase with it out of their loop.


Do the NHS not have a vauxhall-e or peugot-e option ... what's on their menu ?- they have e-tron from previous discussions but that's $$$.
 
jpaul said:
Since vw one is an add on, that may indicate it doesn't deliver efficiency benefits they have on other cars for taking heat from the batteries into the cabin, but, maybe there is a reliability increase with it out of their loop.


Do the NHS not have a vauxhall-e or peugot-e option ... what's on their menu ?- they have e-tron from previous discussions but that's $$$.
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From the various YouTube videos the iD3 appears to be riddled with software issues and I think I’d bodyswerve that at the moment. And I don’t think I’ll ever buy anything VAG again now that the sheer enormity of the emissions stunts they were pulling (they were still fiddling the emissions on diesels as late as 2019) is coming out.

From personal experience the best electric cars are Tesla, Kia e-Niro and MG 5 in descending price order. The MG in particular seems to be a bargain and the perceived quality is definitely no worse than the Kia/Hyundai models at almost twice the price.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Indeed most with have the water to refrigerant heat exhangers and valving to manage to manage whole vehicle cooling/warming that makes an AC system into a heat ppump.
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The fabled ‘octovalve’ is relatively new, so I think the systems in most cars don’t quite work the way you suggest.

Looking at the options list on the iD3 you can see how they’ve got the starting price so low.
 
The ID3 heat pump does look as though it is grafted on - leastaways it just heats the cabin and not the battery, for which the coolant is electrically heated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electricve...ew_heat_pump_in_the_meb_platform_can_save_34/
https://evflux.pro/id3-cooling-and-heating/ use of CO2 as the refrigerant, innovating for lower temp operation, industry leading, but risky ?

Where are this plethora of id3 s/w issues ... I thought whereas initial delays were rumoured to be safety/battery/motor s/w related, remaining ones, nothing more than we have seen on other cars, (eg. kona recall, p2 dealer s/w fix, must be many tesla oes like sign recognition triggered by lorry max speed stickers ....)
 
WJA96 said:
The fabled ‘octovalve’ is relatively new, so I think the systems in most cars don’t quite work the way you suggest.

Looking at the options list on the iD3 you can see how they’ve got the starting price so low.
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The systems in mode cars work exactly as I describe, “suggest” suggests you think I’m guessing :confused:

octovalve - That’s just a highly integrated valve array. The Model 3 header tank with water pumps in is just as impressive IMO.

there nothing next gen about the heat flux management, just better integration of the parts.
 
jpaul said:
The ID3 heat pump does look as though it is grafted on - leastaways it just heats the cabin and not the battery, for which the coolant is electrically heated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electricve...ew_heat_pump_in_the_meb_platform_can_save_34/
https://evflux.pro/id3-cooling-and-heating/ use of CO2 as the refrigerant, innovating for lower temp operation, industry leading, but risky ?

Where are this plethora of id3 s/w issues ... I thought whereas initial delays were rumoured to be safety/battery/motor s/w related, remaining ones, nothing more than we have seen on other cars, (eg. kona recall, p2 dealer s/w fix, must be many tesla oes like sign recognition triggered by lorry max speed stickers ....)
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Almost every VW iD3 review reports issues with warnings popping up and car systems shutting down - Bjorn Nyland, CarWoW etc. and then once cars were delivered the owners started asking why they had a fully lit up dashboard the whole time and the cars would just not start because of phantom battery drains.

https://insideevs.com/news/451790/vw-id3-multiple-bugs-mind-the-explanation/

https://insideevs.com/news/451247/vw-id3-30-cases-12v-battery-issues/




and there is plenty more if you just look for ve iD3 software issues.

Bear in mind these were cars that were already parked up for SIX MONTHS because of software issues so even after 6 months of debugging VW released these cars to customers even when they knew they weren’t right. Because if they didn’t they’d have had to pay millions of Euro in EU emissions fines because their average CO2 output would be too high. They released defective cars on purpose. Because it suited VW Group. The pattern is clear. They don’t give a four-x about their customers.

I’m not saying other manufacturers are perfect, but I think there is a clear difference between a firm like Hyundai or Polestar who released defective parts unwittingly and are now replacing them and VW who sent the cars out KNOWING they were defective and expecting customers to help them out by repeatedly visiting dealerships to get updates done (because the OTA update system isn’t ready yet),
 
[QUOTE="Jonnycoupe, post: 34175973, member: 1870]The Model 3 header tank with water pumps in is just as impressive.[/QUOTE]

Except it doesn’t quite work properly. Which is why there are so many issues with cabin temperature on Tesla M3s.
 
You’d have thought someone with as many resources as VW they would be able to do better but I guess that’s where modern cars always fall down. The tech and core spending software is really primitive and now they are paying the price.

It makes so much sense for the likes of polstar to use an existing decent and powerful OS like android and plug in what you need.
 
Android everywhere can have its problems/malware ->
jpaul said:
Polestar 2 IVI - intel h/w collaboration, apollo lake inside, https://blogs.intel.com/iot/2019/05/07/polestar2/, rather than arm.
interesting paper on Android automotive penetration testing https://www.cse.chalmers.se/~andrei/vehits19.pdf , some interesting ideas on malware - soundblaster.
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I'm not sure(hope not) that mission critical real-time appolications , on a P2, are running under android.

I can understand if a secure/reliable OTA upgrades is back of the queue for ID3 development, with its potential to brick a car,
crikey a windows 10 update is painful enough.
 
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