EV general discussion

[m4rmite]

panoramic screen - Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder , overembelishing a rose, whilst children might want to look at a screen as they travel, does an adult passenger need a screen (at what cost) -
Bentley had it right with the rotating nav screen ,
at a minimum there needs to be a blackout mode for night time driving, unless it is FSD, too.

Try a quick Google first.
Hyperscreen’s unique features include a display for the passenger. It remains dormant behind a screensaver when the seat is empty, but has an entirely separate system for the front occupant to take advantage of without distracting the driver. There’s an internet browser, even allowing them to play YouTube videos, and if the car sees you watching the video from the driver’s seat while the car’s in motion it’ll dim the brightness to stop the potential distraction.

 

[chanjy]

Try a quick Google first.
Hyperscreen’s unique features include a display for the passenger. It remains dormant behind a screensaver when the seat is empty, but has an entirely separate system for the front occupant to take advantage of without distracting the driver. There’s an internet browser, even allowing them to play YouTube videos, and if the car sees you watching the video from the driver’s seat while the car’s in motion it’ll dim the brightness to stop the potential distraction.

Older Jags used to have a polariser to make it impossible to see from the driver's seat iirc

 

[ICDP]

Heat pump on the newer models makes a big impact. As pointed out it has a big battery so feels the impact less without one, but I'd prefer the heat pump option. I do like the fact that you get a 10 year 155k mile battery warranty on it, but you'd hope that it will easily last that long with the buffer it has.

This is something a lot of people overlook. At best a heat pump will give 7 - 10 extra miles in winter on a small to medium battery car. For most people this is insignificant as they are getting sub 200 motorway miles anyway and a charge on a longer trip is almost inevitable.

It’s like a jump from 180 to 190 winter miles on 100% SoC and that’s assuming mixed driving. Head on a motorway trip and your heat pump adds maybe 7 miles of range. So 157ish instead of 150ish (nobody drives to zero percent)

A heat pump really only starts to make sense on the highly efficient motorway cruisers with large batteries. Then you start to get an extra 15 - 20 miles of range and you are getting ~250 miles plus winter motorway range.

 

[pastymuncher]

Which dash? The standard is the iPad type on, but the full width 3 screen setup (Hyperscreen) is mostly an optional extra, priced at 7 grand…

I just went to the Mercedes website found the EQE and scrolled down the page. On seeing the full width screen I wrongly presumed that was standard fitment. Now that you said that I went back to the website scrolled down the page and noticed a tab labelled "Design and Equipment lines" so I clicked on it and that showed the standard dash which to be honest isn't terrible, at least the tablet part isn't sticking up above the dash height.

 

[jpaul]

if the system/bom cost of the heat pump is negligible versus the uni-directional compressors it's replacing (isn't it ?) and it adds 5% range, also cheaper/lighter than the $50/kwh battery equivalent,
then should be in default system, marginal gains, a la. Brailsford , like the 2-speed gearbox adding 7% to extra-urban driving, range

 

[Jonnycoupe]

It’s not marginal though, independent valves or a heat flux management cluster (next phase of heat) add loads of cost.

So that’s why it’s not in as default as per the whole of the industry of automative OEMs.

You need to stop writing your inner thoughts down here if you ever want to be credible at anything.

 

[Simon]

if the system/bom cost of the heat pump is negligible versus the uni-directional compressors it's replacing (isn't it ?) and it adds 5% range, also cheaper/lighter than the $50/kwh battery equivalent,
then should be in default system, marginal gains, a la. Brailsford , like the 2-speed gearbox adding 7% to extra-urban driving, range

Its a £1k option

 

[Simon]

Had a bit of a moment and just ordered a R5 110kW Iconic Five Comfort Range 52 kWh in Green.

Cupra ends in Sep and prices went silly on Zenith.

but i hate EVs

 

[Rroff]

I find it amusing how many people hate on SUVs and pickups and they don't even know why they are hating on them and/or are highly prejudiced reasons.

With the world heating up, why are more SUVs being sold?

Despite dire predictions of climate breakdown, more Sports Utility Vehicles are being spotted on, and off, the roads.

www.bbc.co.uk

Aaand the SUV hate train in the comments, a large number their ego triggered because someone has a larger car than them.

 

[lordrobs]

With the world heating up, why are more SUVs being sold?

Despite dire predictions of climate breakdown, more Sports Utility Vehicles are being spotted on, and off, the roads.

www.bbc.co.uk

Aaand the SUV hate train in the comments, a large number their ego triggered because someone has a larger car than them.

It's quite funny isn't it. I love the comments along the lines of "taking up more than their fair share of space on the roads". I'm sure these are also the same people who queue for a mile, passing multiple "Queue in both lanes" signs then ride the bumper of the car in front to stop someone 'pushing in' despite the massive red merge in turn signs.

It is a shame that the article calls out SUVs rather than the general growth of vehicles in general. We all know why (greater safety requirements and greater driver/passenger expectations) but it does leave the question of viable alternatives for personal transportation.

Electric bikes and scooters are taking off but the small two seater city run abouts haven't really gained traction in the UK.

 

[Rroff]

It's quite funny isn't it. I love the comments along the lines of "taking up more than their fair share of space on the roads". I'm sure these are also the same people who queue for a mile, passing multiple "Queue in both lanes" signs then ride the bumper of the car in front to stop someone 'pushing in' despite the massive red merge in turn signs.

It is a shame that the article calls out SUVs rather than the general growth of vehicles in general. We all know why (greater safety requirements and greater driver/passenger expectations) but it does leave the question of viable alternatives for personal transportation.

Electric bikes and scooters are taking off but the small two seater city run abouts haven't really gained traction in the UK.

I'm not against criticism of SUVs but the vast majority of complaints against them seem to be knee-jerk hate rather than an informed criticism - like the people complaining about not being able to park because the only bay left was bracketed by SUVs when their car is actually just as wide or not so narrower that it makes a meaningful difference heh.

Personally I shudder when I see two seater city cars - with the amount of lorries, etc. on the road you don't stand a chance in an incident so I can understand why adoption isn't great.

 

[Shadowness]

But it still does highlight the point of when the excitement of EVs was up and coming, you'd think that small cars would be the 'ideal' fit. But manufacturers are pumping out 3 ton EV monstrosities instead (or what it would seem by what EVs are on the road).

 

[Rroff]

But it still does highlight the point of when the excitement of EVs was up and coming, you'd think that small cars would be the 'ideal' fit. But manufacturers are pumping out 3 ton EV monstrosities instead (or what it would seem by what EVs are on the road).

As touched on above modern safety requirements kind of work against it though I am surprised there hasn't been more effort towards ultra light-weight EV buggy/city type cars but I guess for it to really take off would probably require a separate road network for use of such vehicles and other types of transport like bicycles which won't happen without some serious money and draconian changes.

 

[Shadowness]

As touched on above modern safety requirements kind of work against it though I am surprised there hasn't been more effort towards ultra light-weight EV buggy/city type cars but I guess for it to really take off would probably require a separate road network for use of such vehicles and other types of transport like bicycles which won't happen without some serious money and draconian changes.

haha yeh I wont hold my breath! Cheltenham is wasting a huge amount of money and 5 months of road closures to build a cycle path into town which only a few people will use.

(I'm a cyclist! And will use it, but in the greater scheme of things, it's going to annoy a lot of people just for a cycle lane)

 

[b0rn2sk8]

haha yeh I wont hold my breath! Cheltenham is wasting a huge amount of money and 5 months of road closures to build a cycle path into town which only a few people will use.

(I'm a cyclist! And will use it, but in the greater scheme of things, it's going to annoy a lot of people just for a cycle lane)

People said that about the cycle lanes in London but I think they have demonstrated that if you build them right (e.g. segregated and they make sense) people will use them and use them a lot.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

But it still does highlight the point of when the excitement of EVs was up and coming, you'd think that small cars would be the 'ideal' fit. But manufacturers are pumping out 3 ton EV monstrosities instead (or what it would seem by what EVs are on the road).

Cos you bought a G Wiz or a Renault Zoe? Or you didn't hence people make stuff that sells/leases.

 

[Rroff]

People said that about the cycle lanes in London but I think they have demonstrated that if you build them right (e.g. segregated and they make sense) people will use them and use them a lot.

That is the problem well thought out and well delivered schemes are few and far between. It took 5 years for them to finally rectify one cycle layout around me which was literally lethal for cyclists in the dark if they weren't aware of the problem and brought cyclists into dangerous conflict with traffic in another part despite both issues being easily foreseeable and should have been blatantly obvious to anyone who signed off on the work...

 

[Shadowness]

Yup. I'm not going to be cycling on a cycle lane that is next to a popular park (which replaces a walking path!) that will be covered in pedestrians (not judging as where else are they supposed to walk). I'll cycle on the road. But drivers will give me abuse as 'you should be in the bloody cycle lane!'.
They are built to tick boxes, not provide useful infrastructure to those that would use/benefit from it.

But enough from me. This is the EV thread!

 

[Penfold101]

Yup. I'm not going to be cycling on a cycle lane that is next to a popular park (which replaces a walking path!) that will be covered in pedestrians (not judging as where else are they supposed to walk). I'll cycle on the road. But drivers will give me abuse as 'you should be in the bloody cycle lane!'.
They are built to tick boxes, not provide useful infrastructure to those that would use/benefit from it.

But enough from me. This is the EV thread!

If you get an electric bike you can talk about it here!

 

[Shadowness]

If you get an electric bike you can talk about it here!

I'm neither disabled or a wimp.....so you won't ever see me on one of those! (unless I end up in the first category!)