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I guess it depends what kind of driving you do but, for me, it's still not something I'd prioritise. Like, I'd like a bit more range but it wouldn't change my order of preference unless I was already unsure which car I preferred over another and I wouldn't be willing to pay much more for it. If the range was less than the ID.3 though, yeah, that'd be a problem.

Yeah. I’ve kept bouncing between the 3 (Skoda/MG/BYD)

The Skoda was ruled out initially due to price but a few dealers now have ex demo cars with 2000km on them for a similar price which makes them contenders.

The Skoda looks the best and probably has the best reliability/confidence which was a factor. The fact MG are regularly dead last in surveys was a bit of a concern. The Skoda should also hopefully depreciate a little less.
 
Managed to get a couple of car360 referrals giving me £200 electroverse credit, that should keep me sorted for public charging forever :cry:
 
what was the update on the failed update/tow you mentioned - did VW have a confident explanation/future recommendation, like don't do it near a big trip.
Never do an update before any trip, you will be stuck wherever you are for 3hours. It does warm you.

Obviously if it bricks then thats another issue.
 
There really should be a way to instant rollback/abort updates even in progress, which should be possible, never know when an emergency might arise. It is just laziness, and possibly a bit of cheaping out, on the part of the developers it certainly isn't impossible to implement.

On my Navara if the main system fails for some reason it does at least reboot into a barebones version which is lacking features, etc. but will at least get you going.
 
There really should be a way to instant rollback/abort updates even in progress, which should be possible, never know when an emergency might arise. It is just laziness, and possibly a bit of cheaping out, on the part of the developers it certainly isn't impossible to implement.

On my Navara if the main system fails for some reason it does at least reboot into a barebones version which is lacking features, etc. but will at least get you going.
What like on a bios update or iOS? You cant even abort a tv software update nowadays.

Sounds a bit grumpy to complain about it being 'lazy'. OEMs aren't going to install parallel hardware for live updates / redundancy, not just for costs but it makes little sense for a few hours in a 3yr ownership. As said before, this type of stuff would have been in the dealer for a day to do the updates. OTA is a benefit to the end user. Rather narrowminded to think otherwise dont you think?

Infotainment crashing and needing a reboot isnt at all related to a full vehicle update.
 
Infotainment crashing and needing a reboot isnt at all related to a full vehicle update.

My point is some of my vehicles can still function if the main software goes down, so it isn't impossible to partition the implementation like that, with a lot of newer vehicles if the update fails, etc. you may end up with a literal bricked vehicle - some literally won't let you start the car with a failed update even if they will boot up.

What like on a bios update or iOS? You cant even abort a tv software update nowadays.

Sounds a bit grumpy to complain about it being 'lazy'. OEMs aren't going to install parallel hardware for live updates / redundancy, not just for costs but it makes little sense for a few hours in a 3yr ownership. As said before, this type of stuff would have been in the dealer for a day to do the updates. OTA is a benefit to the end user. Rather narrowminded to think otherwise dont you think?

That doesn't make it right - also some motherboards have a dual/recovery BIOS so you could if needed for some reason abort mid update and/or recover from a failed update worse comes to worse.

It isn't like situations might not arise where you need a vehicle in a hurry such as say having to unexpectedly rush a child to hospital, etc. I don't think it is being grumpy to expect a fallback that at least gets the vehicles going, even if you later have to repair the main update.
 
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Well you just press delay if you need car and then press update when you go to bed. I can’t help it if you catastrophes situations.

If it is big issue just never update. Or take it to a dealer and get a courtesy car (like usual software updates )/ align with a service

They should do tyre replacements when the cars are driving too
 
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what was the update on the failed update/tow you mentioned - did VW have a confident explanation/future recommendation, like don't do it near a big trip.

They came and sorted it out. The engineer turned up the next morning and couldn't solve but got it driveable, took it back to the garage and sorted out the update for us to pick up the next day. They didn't give us any reason why it failed in the first place just said they hadn't seen it fail like that before. Not the most confidence inspiring, to be honest, but the customer service was as good as it could be.
 
Well you just press delay if you need car and then press update when you go to bed. I can’t help it if you catastrophes situations.

They should do tyre replacements when the cars are driving too

Not really comparable situations. Sure it would be very unlucky timing but I've had more than one instance in my life of having to get up in the middle of the night and drive somewhere in an emergency i.e. older relative took a fall when going to the bathroom and/or take someone to hospital, etc. etc. these things do happen.

Life is complicated but some things are foreseeable and avoidable, a tyre getting a puncture often isn't.
 
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Delayed for a week due to illness but we did our first long distance trip in the ID.3 this weekend from where we live to visit a friend in Holland and back, a bit under 600km (~370 miles) each way. It turned out to be pretty easy. We largely charged up at McDonalds, which nearly all have relatively cheap fast chargers over here, and apart from one where we turned up and discovered the free charger was broken it was pretty easy. Helped that there was a slow charger where we were staying so we could leave it overnight to fully charge before we left. Overall, it did add some time to the journey, I reckon around an extra 30-40 minutes which was not a bit deal on a nine hour journey that we do occasionally but I guess would become irritating if you needed to do this kind of journey often especially as it wasn't that optional, whereas we could have cut a stop short by, e.g., taking the coffee with us to finish in the car we had to sit and drink it while the car charged. So we could have shaved off another 20 minutes or so in an ICE if we really wanted and maybe another 10 minutes because we drove more slowly on the autobahns to extend the range.

Up to now, I've always been unbothered by the range on the ID.3 but I think I'd like a little more if we were going to do this more often. Not so much necessarily to drive longer in a stint -- we try to keep the stint time down between driver stops anyway -- but so we could cut a stop down to a quick wee and driver swap rather than needing to wait for a charge.

Still, overall, my takeaway was that I'd be completely happy to do more long trips in the EV. Although it was longer, it was also a easier and more relaxing drive than the ICE cars I've had -- that's partly down to tech like radar cruise control that you can get just as easily in ICE but the smoother, quieter drive also makes a big difference. We're now thinking about taking the car over to the UK for Christmas/NYE on the ferry rather than flying over and hiring a car like we usually do.

What sort of chargers do they have at McD's over there then, a lot here are 50kW/75kW shared what sort of speeds where you seeing when you charged, and was was your bottom out in terms of comfort % wise? I know that some of the early ID.3's weren't what you'd call 'rapid' at charging anyhow.
 
Well I am bamboozled.

Finance ombudsman have sided with Alphabet and said that they don’t believe they’ve done anything wrong.


In absolute shock I must say. Don’t even know how to process it, nor know where to go from here.

Ask for the case to be reviewed by the FOS, see if they uphold the decision of the original case worker, I am unsure if you are able to offer more evidence against Alphabet however.
 
What sort of chargers do they have at McD's over there then, a lot here are 50kW/75kW shared what sort of speeds where you seeing when you charged, and was was your bottom out in terms of comfort % wise? I know that some of the early ID.3's weren't what you'd call 'rapid' at charging anyhow.

We were seeing 50-65Kw, the lowest we went was 15%. Ours is a facelift model, I forget if it was '23 or '24. The chargers are rated to 150Kw but whether they ever reach that I don't know.

Not sure why it matters? The cars are what they are.
 
We were seeing 50-65Kw, the lowest we went was 15%. Ours is a facelift model, I forget if it was '23 or '24. The chargers are rated to 150Kw but whether they ever reach that I don't know.

Not sure why it matters? The cars are what they are.

It was merely a query, given the comments you made surrounding extra waiting time for the car, e.g the grabbing a coffee and not waiting, so saving a bit of time, and reducing speed to avoid extra charging time etc.

I like to see people real world scenarios, and how they view the benefits and draw backs, and what matters to them. In the Ioniq we got 47kW max for a few % it then drops off to ~35kW, but the batteries are 38kWh so it is all relative, where as something like a more modern Ioniq 5 will do 10% to 60% in 12 minutes (on the right charger) which we personally would never see the benefit of as it is just too fast for how we operate.
 
Miles per minute all that matters in real world. Could have the fastest charging car in world but no good if you then do 2m/kWh. All early id3 got the update to do 120-135kW depending on battery size.

Calling an early id3 slow when you have a 47kW peak hyundai is a bit odd.
 
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First experience of using a Tesla supercharger over the weekend returning from a little family break in Anglesey. The Menai science park was easy to find, lots of spare chargers. I'd done a bit of research before leaving so already had the app and payment cards set up. Peak delivery was 157kw which dropped to an average of 102kw for the 20 minutes i was connected. Another charge at Gridserve at Chester whilst we got a coffee had a peak of 156kw dropping to an average of 77kw for the 35 minutes of charging. Hadn't realised I'd left the car settings at 100% charge so the Gridserve did charge past 80% to 93% which affected the average power.
 
Just got a recharge invoice on my leased vehicle for the difference between VED when the vehicle was ordered, and price at renewal of VED

Car goes back in 2 months though...

Do I really have to pay the whole amount or should I contest it?
 
Just got a recharge invoice on my leased vehicle for the difference between VED when the vehicle was ordered, and price at renewal of VED

Car goes back in 2 months though...

Do I really have to pay the whole amount or should I contest it?
They will refund it if the car goes back before the renewal.
 
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