Why at a lower rate. They are heavier and still produce rubber particulate pollution and damage road surfaces.
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Why at a lower rate. They are heavier and still produce rubber particulate pollution and damage road surfaces.
The government needs cash, so EV's should be the same rate. They will need to find the money they are losing from fuel duty with EV's.
The motorist has always been a cash cow, EV's have had it pretty easy up to now but they must think there will be enough on the road to start squeezing the drivers soon.
Unsure, they were taxis and I didn't know the exact model. I don't think any were BYD.
And I'm thinking more about quality of chassis and dampening than I am about interior materials.
Thanks for this, in that case, perhaps it's other countries that need to support their manufacturers.
Good choice. You've probably already read my thread where I was considering and eventually bought a Seal. I'd check if you can get the Excellence model if a HUD, all wheel drive and a better suspension setup is worth it to you.
That’s on the Sealion. Sadly I couldn’t quite stretch to that.
I’m on the Seal U so the suv version rather than the seal you have (stupid naming!)
Still seems a great car though apart from being pretty slow.
Charge accordingly to weight for all vehicles.
Then add a rate for brake dust and emissions?
The absence of UK tarifs on the likes of BYD is at odds with what the eu has done, result is that eu will not sell as many ev's into the UK,
china sells it's ev's to us at an inflated cost , and we establish a long term maintenance market/cash-cow for china;
versus having more EU cars (stellantis/vag) on our roads with trade balance of reciprocation that they buy more UK products in other economic domains;
All down to the exclusive UK government 'China is our friend' strategy' unofficial members of BRICS.
[BYD despite it's size don't forget that Buffet abandoned them and that their worldwide sales appear to be inflated, by illicit practice of dealer pre-registration in worldwide market -
it maybe a house of cards]
china sells it's ev's to us at an inflated cost , and we establish a long term maintenance market/cash-cow for china;
versus having more EU cars (stellantis/vag) on our roads with trade balance of reciprocation that they buy more UK products in other economic domains;
All down to the exclusive UK government 'China is our friend' strategy' unofficial members of BRICS.
[BYD despite it's size don't forget that Buffet abandoned them and that their worldwide sales appear to be inflated, by illicit practice of dealer pre-registration in worldwide market -
it maybe a house of cards]
I really like it too. Real pricing will be interesting and I assume that one is more representative of the higher-trim versions, but even so they've done a superb job of not making it look or feel "budget". Even has two screens, something Volvo seemingly couldn't manage on the EX30.
byd sells to us at over inflated prices yet china gets accused of subsidising it's ev sales?
Which one is it?
As for warren buffet I think he did quite well.
Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway invested in BYD, a Chinese electric vehicle maker, in 2008, purchasing 225 million shares for about $230 million. The investment grew significantly, but Berkshire fully exited its stake in September 2025, reportedly making around $7 billion in profit over the years
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Western manufacturers are always going to struggle competing against BYD regardless of whatever the CCP are doing. They are more vertically integrated than any other manufacturer.
BYD have been making batteries for decades and they are extremely good at it. The battery in your 90’s Nokia phone will have been made by BYD.
Tariffs are used to protect domestic industries, only 10% of cars sold in the U.K. are UK manufactured. Applying tariffs here would mean 90% of the vendors go to other counties at the expense of higher prices for U.K. consumers. It’s got nothing to do with trying to be friends with China - we’d have granted their massive embassy already if that was the case.
BYD have been making batteries for decades and they are extremely good at it. The battery in your 90’s Nokia phone will have been made by BYD.
I’d love to know how you’d come to the conclusion that us buying less Chinese EVs will result in Europeans buying more stuff from us from entirely different sectors of the economy.
Tariffs are used to protect domestic industries, only 10% of cars sold in the U.K. are UK manufactured. Applying tariffs here would mean 90% of the vendors go to other counties at the expense of higher prices for U.K. consumers. It’s got nothing to do with trying to be friends with China - we’d have granted their massive embassy already if that was the case.
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The same could be said about the structure and arguments with lots of your postings on here.
So you want to penalise UK car buyers to help keep the EU car industry working. Check the Twingo above, that is what happens when competition occurs, they innovate and create faster to compete and stay in business.
Simple and great for people who live abroad and bring their cars over.
The Seal has two versions, the Design and the Excellence. Not sure about the Seal U and the Sealion as I didn't consider them, and your right, the names could have been better!
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Not available in the UK until Q1 2027 though - too late to the party - I think BYD and others will have cleaned-up the market by then.
i'm using the hypervolt 3 pro installed by octopus, cost £1049
no complaints
Unless you've got solar/batteries/other out of the norm setup then it pretty much just comes down to which one you like the look of and whether it'll work intelligently with your chosen electricity provider.