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No it's not, I've got a tumble drier and having an EV tariff now means I don't cry when I turn it on :D
After owning my EV for 2 years with no home charger (free work charging) I've had to bite the bullet and get one at home due to the gaul of other people getting EVs and making my free charging harder. :p

Wasn't happy with the pence per KW going up when on an EV tarrif BUT like you, we have a tumble dryer and this will ONLY be going on at the cheap rate when we're on it. Unless my calcs are wrong, we should actually save money not be worse off!

Edit: Not sure if that's a me thing but gaul might be a made up word? So it should read other people being inconsiderate. :D which I mean in jest :p

Edit edit: OK I just spelt it wrong, it should ve gall.
 
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Almost like we're having a general discussion about something that we notice with our EVs.
Yes. Every year we do this. Welcome to the club. People sharing stats and figures that no one else can really relate too. BRB off to get a pre-drink
 
but the strength & direction of the wind ?

if I get 10% mpg difference on an ICE into/against the wind on journey legs, and that is only 30% efficient , then on a 85% efficient ev energy goes up nearly 30%
This makes no sense at all. Wind is meaning 70mph feels like 60 or 80 for aero. Nothing to do with efficiency
 
I liked this video from him being a complete new user to EV's but driving different cars everyday. It illustrates the knowledge gap, and what I think is one of the main issues now "insert word" anxiety is not as highly focused on.


I do wonder if people realise that learning something is of value both from a monetary point of view and peace of mind perspective, "I don't want to have to think about xyz" seems to be where we are getting to now.
 
This makes no sense at all. Wind is meaning 70mph feels like 60 or 80 for aero. Nothing to do with efficiency
if you need an additional 10% energy in an ice for ovecoming wind resistance that translates to a much bigger percentage increase on a more efficient ev.
 
if you need an additional 10% energy in an ice for ovecoming wind resistance that translates to a much bigger percentage increase on a more efficient ev.
No it doesn’t. The energy needed at wheels is the same. The source of energy % loss is still the same.

Eg car needs 20kW rather than 17kW at the wheels. Regardless of fuel type.

You should try to read, absorb information, then post it rather than just posting links/ stuff you don’t really understand ? Would be more useful ‘dicussions’ then.
 
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but the strength & direction of the wind ?

if I get 10% mpg difference on an ICE into/against the wind on journey legs, and that is only 30% efficient , then on a 85% efficient ev energy goes up nearly 30%
So your 11p? per mile goes up 1.1p per mile, whilst on a 2p per mile ev tariff that becomes 2.7p per mile at 30% extra.
Out of curiosity do you get 55mpg on your daily running around?
It would be a bit silly trying to claim a win for 1 trip a year over what it costs daily wouldn't it?
 
No it doesn’t. The energy needed at wheels is the same. The source of energy % loss is still the same.

Eg car needs 20kW rather than 17kW at the wheels. Regardless of fuel type.

You should try to read, absorb information, then post it rather than just posting links/ stuff you don’t really understand ? Would be more useful ‘dicussions’ then.
I was thinking along the lines that at 70mph the thermic output of the ice in 6th has plateaud and you have a relatively higher efficiency than an ev,
so a non-linearity - but maybe magical thinking.
 
Ordered the wife a Renault 5 Iconic Comfort on Thursday. Works lease, £260 a month for 6,000 miles in Midnight Blue. We both enjoyed the test drive of the techno we had, was originally going for the Techno, but it was only £15 a month dearer to get the Iconic.
Well worth it, the lack of heated seats/wheel in the Techno trim made it a complete non-starter for me. The yellow interior is fun too.
 
I was thinking along the lines that at 70mph the thermic output of the ice in 6th has plateaud and you have a relatively higher efficiency than an ev,
so a non-linearity - but maybe magical thinking.
I suggest stop guessing then. How is an Ice going to suddenly got from 30 to 90% efficient because of headwind.
 
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Is that a round trip ? - last few days the wind reversal from south to north wind has been very marked out on bike/running, usually to the detriment of the home leg.
e: I did a 200mile round E-W Norfolk/northants trip about a month ago in ICE was 50mpg on out trip and 55 on return
No, one way.
 
Killing time in Heathrow this morning I spotted an article about the Dongfeng eπ 007 which is destined to be the first commercially available car with 4WD provided by in hub motors.

From a design perspective it seems like an interesting concept, no gearbox, no drive shafts and no physical brakes.

Now enjoying a Saudi Uber. You could fit half a car in the gap this guy is leaving at 130kph so thankfully he's on the more chill end of the spectrum compared to most. :D

Oh and jpaul... You should try asking this stuff to Google Gemini or ChatGPT. You two would get along a treat!
 
Seems that Ford are finally using common sense and unlocking more of the Puma Gen-E battery pack capacity as useable. Not sure if they will make a software update for current models, but new official WLTP will be 250+ miles with the same 53kWh pack, guessing they are making it 46-48kWh usable now, up from 43.6kWh.
 
Seems that Ford are finally using common sense and unlocking more of the Puma Gen-E battery pack capacity as useable. Not sure if they will make a software update for current models, but new official WLTP will be 250+ miles with the same 53kWh pack, guessing they are making it 46-48kWh usable now, up from 43.6kWh.

Ah that's interesating, it was an interesting desicion to lock away so much of the capacity.

On one hand it would mean people can happily daily charge to 100% as that'd probably only be about 85% to the actual battery so great for long term battery health, but i know I'd prefer the flexibility to use a bit more of the pack when i needed it.
 
Just to follow up on this. We did settle on the Pulse model in the end, and not the insane Brabus, although the Pulse is still rapid (only ~1s slower). There is an order in now. 3-4 months is the expected wait. The M240 has gone. I'm really looking forward to it. @Simon worked out the boot as well. :p
I don't suppose you know if the Smart #5 passthrough Android Auto navigation to the HUD?
 
Ah that's interesating, it was an interesting desicion to lock away so much of the capacity.

On one hand it would mean people can happily daily charge to 100% as that'd probably only be about 85% to the actual battery so great for long term battery health, but i know I'd prefer the flexibility to use a bit more of the pack when i needed it.
Ford aren't the first manufacturer to 'unlock' range from their EV's. Peugeot did the same, I'm sure other manufacturers have done something similar as well.
 
Ford aren't the first manufacturer to 'unlock' range from their EV's. Peugeot did the same, I'm sure other manufacturers have done something similar as well.

It's not that it is new, it is that Ford made a smallish pack so limited in the first place, and the car is already quite efficient.

For the Pug linked most of the official range increase came from optimisations not just making more kWh available.
 
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