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Slightly different but you could pay to remove the software lock on the battery in a Model S 60 and turn it into a 75 many (7?) years ago.
 
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Officially 4 weeks today since the VW threw a wobbly and no sign of getting it back.

With the FO siding with Alphabet, I’m not sure where to go here.

Just keep paying and suck it up I guess.
 
lordrobs said:
Ouch. I guess to be fair while my Poxhall has the build quality of a high school D&T project it does mostly function as it should so maybe not so much of a downgrade from the VW after all!
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It’s going back today because the regen braking hasn’t been working - I’ve been having errors on the dash saying “regenerative braking temporarily reduced”

Usually happens when I’m going into a bend and the car doesn’t slow down :P


I’ll write a post about the car at some point because I never thought I could dislike a car so much
 
The Tesla is going back tomorrow so took the opportunity for a quick / last chance lineup shot...

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Just been down to pick the wife up in the snow and yet again the Leaf handled it superbly. There was a Jag XF attempting (and failing miserably) to reverse into a parking slot on a slope and all he was doing was spinning his rear wheels. I just drove in, stopped and reversed into a slot with not a single slip. I said it last year and I will say it again, my Gen 2 Leaf is by far the best and easiest car I have ever driven in the snow.
 
So, the Vauxhall Grandland...

There's nothing grand about it.



Quick summary of observations:

1. Auto high beam/beam blanking is dumb

To turn it on, you have to pull the flash talk all the way towards you, flashing the car in front before it turns on. On the ID7 you push it away, so the system engages first, works out if there's a car in front and then will turn on full beam. The Vauxhall does full beam first, then works out if there's a car there.

Similarly, if you want to turn it off, it will flash the person in front first.

Logic.



2. It keeps rolling in the direction you were last travelling when changing between drive/reverse.

If you're crawling forward, stop and put it in reverse, it'll roll forward half a metre or so until it decides to start reversing.

Catches me out sometimes.



3. Bongs. Bloody bongs.

At least 4 when you turn it on, and then whenever you interact with the display it'll bong. Want sport mode? Bong. Want to close the menu for sport mode? Bong. Turning off the driver assistance? Bong for each one. Disconnect the phone because it CarPlay stops working for the 40th time that day? Bong.


4. Pretty sure I've got concussion from the suspension*

*Okay maybe not, but my goodness it is ROCK HARD. The suspension that is, you dirty buggers :mad: This makes it extremely distracting when the gf is in the car a the same time, as I find that I don't spend any time looking at the road :(


Never had issues with rear passengers feeling sick in the ID.7 but have had many complaints in the Vauxhall due to how bumpy/jittery it is.



5. Great range!*

*If you believe what it says.

Start a trip - 300 miles for you sir.

25 miles done.

"I hope you enjoyed your 100 mile trip sir" - remaining range: 200 miles.


Had this yesterday. Trip to Horsham which is about 30-35 miles for me on A/B roads, but it dropped 100 miles in that time. Not hammering it as normal morning commute traffic.


It's probably got around 200 miles of range on a full charge in this weather. The ID.7 would be a smidge under 300 real world for me in the same conditions. After a 65 mile round trip yesterday, I got home with 107 miles left, starting on 80%. 100-90 is always the least efficient due to no regen on the car.



6. You thought the VW touch controls are bad? Let me present to you: Vauxhall Badland.

You want to turn up the volume? Sorry not sure if that was an accidental press, try again.
Hmm, still not sure, try again.
Once more?
Keep trying.
I'll definitely work it out this time.
Okay no really once more.
Are you sure you're even pressing it?
Nah you're definitely not pressing it.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE STEERING WHEEL.
Yeah that's it. JK not really.

>Uses volume knob.



7. Beautiful animations!*

*For everything.

New track?

BOOM

Look at this pretty animation distracting you from the road.

Turning up the volume?

BOOM

Look at this pretty animation each time you press the button (if I decide if you are pressing it).

Why look at the road when you can look at me?!



8. OK?

This is the prompt for setting the cruise/limiter. The car just asks "OK?"

> In a 40
> Now in a 30
> OK?
> OK

Works fine.


> In a 60
> Nah bro it's 5
> OK?
> OK...
> HERE ARE YOUR BRAKES SIR
> NOT OK


You cannot set the speed - you can only say OK to the speed it thinks it is. It's wrong a lot.



What does it do well?

Well, it has a really cool pixel light thingy when you turn it on so that everyone knows you're a high income earner/gucci belt wearer/corner sofa owner with.... a Vauxhall.

Oh also! It has a cooled storage compartment!




Thank GOODNESS it's so cheap!!!


Wait, the top trim with not terrible lights and speakers that don't sound like a tin can is £40,000?
 
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VincentHanna said:
Electric cars do have an advantage in snow, low centre of mavity and instant torque.

Why is g r a v i t y being converted to mavity on the forum?
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It’s likely the weight on thin tyres is the main reason. Doubt centre of mavity (lol) means anything. It isn’t exactly going around corners at a speed where it matters.
 
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VincentHanna said:
Electric cars do have an advantage in snow, low centre of mavity and instant torque.

Why is g r a v i t y being converted to mavity on the forum?
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I would think an ev would be quite the opposite, instant torque will cause the tyres to lose adhesion very easily, the very reason why using a higher gear is encouraged. Plus rear wheel drive is a disadvantage as well and fat tyres also are a negative.
Best car I ever drove in the snow was a Citroën Dyane 6, almost no torque, front wheel drive and narrow tyres.
 
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a lot of evs have a snow and ice setting which should improve things a lot.
having a lot of weight on the tyres is a bonus in snowy/icey weather... i remember my dad with our old RWD sierra filling the boot with bags of sand :D
 
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cuke2u said:
I would think an ev would be quite the opposite, instant torque will cause the tyres to lose adhesion very easily, the very reason why using a higher gear is encouraged. Plus rear wheel drive is a disadvantage as well and fat tyres also are a negative.
Best car I ever drove in the snow was a Citroën Dyane 6, almost no torque, front wheel drive and narrow tyres.
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Wife's Suzuki alto for me, I was Colin mcrae for the day.
 
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