EV general discussion

DanTheMan said:
I'm probably in a minority but I don't think an EV duty is that bad of a tax raiser.

15k miles a year at 3p per mile is £450 a year, or £37.50 a month.

Given the cost per mile for anyone who can charge an EV at home is significantly cheaper than an equivalent petrol or diesel, it is still more economical in most cases.

I love driving an EV and can't ever see me not having one as my main vehicle, the fact it saves me money over the equivalent ICE is a bonus, not a requirement.
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I'd kinda agree - I'm happy to pay my bit if that's what it takes. Doesn't mean I need to agree with it all, but meh.

And in line with this - controversial comment - I find it ironic and a bit puzzling that people elsewhere on these forums won't bat an eyelid dropping £250+ quid or so on bits for their PC's, but all of a sudden folk doing 8.5k miles a year will be urgently looking to sell their EV because it'll cost them about £225 more than it did last year :confused::cool:
 
domestic electrcity getting a bit cheaper to help
3.21 The Government will temporarily refund electricity suppliers for 75 per cent of the domestic
portion of the renewables obligation (RO) scheme in 2026-27, 2027-28 and 2028-29.10
The estimated cost of this policy is £2.3 billion on average in these forecast years, before
falling to zero for the rest of the forecast. The RO scheme is a subsidy for renewable
electricity generation, paid for by electricity suppliers and currently fully passed onto
domestic and non-domestic electricity bills as a levy. Following the change, 25 per cent of
the cost will continue to be passed on to domestic electricity bills, rising to 100 per cent of
the cost from 2029-30 onwards. Non-domestic consumers are unaffected by this policy. See
Box 4.2 for more information on the RO scheme
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Haggisman said:
Not coming in till 2028 fortunately. Plenty of time for everyone currently on a 3 year lease to get rid :)
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Get rid and get what though? An ICE and pay double the duty?

I find it stupid that they are wasting money giving new car buyers a grant and then doing this.

It won't impact me much as I don’t do many miles, so it is not just about the money. It is just the stupidity of the whole thing.

If they were not wasting the £3750 grant on new EV's at most I would be a little annoyed and forget it. But doing this and also same time making us pay congestion charge at in London when the whole thing was about air pollution when it all began is annoying. Bait and switch it feels like.
 
TNA said:
But doing this and also same time making us pay congestion charge at in London when the whole thing was about air pollution when it all began is annoying. Bait and switch it feels like.
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Dunno if you can read but the congestion charge was about.... congestion :cry:

Maybe EVs contribute to congestion too
 
TNA said:
Get rid and get what though? An ICE and pay double the duty?
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And half the up-front cost, being able to DIY maintenance, along with not having to consider finding a charger.

Was already on the fence about our next vehicle, options being:

Expensive EV van
Cheap EV + cheap ICE van
Not quite so cheap but not as expensive as EV ICE van

Options 1 + 2 have just become significantly less attractive!
 
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Its regressive. The 190 tax is a flat rate across the board and a flat per mile basis for whatever you drive.

There is no reward for driving a cheap economic EV compared to a heavier much more inefficient SUV which will damage the roads more and suck more KwH.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
How will they charge me per mile? I don’t do many miles, nor do I have an MOT for a while.
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Most EVs have apps that tell you the vehicle milage, probably get access to that same data (VIN linked > Numberplate> owner on V5) and a monthly Direct debit i would guess.
 
Interested to see how they do the increase with inflation as well. Is it really going to go up to 3.09p or whatever, or (far more likely IMO) are they going to just round it up, so it's 4p in 2029, 5p in 2030, etc.
 
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Haggisman said:
Interested to see how they do the increase with inflation as well. Is it really going to go up to 3.09p or whatever, or (far more likely IMO) are they going to just round it up, so it's 4p in 2029, 5p in 2030, etc.
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Of course they will, they would never let all that petrol tax just disappear as more people get EV's. More than every penny will be clawed back as more and more people go EV. Then they will double down when new power stations are required. It's been a good run and never a better time to take advantage of running an EV but by the time this is all shaken out it will cost you exactly the same or more when we all have EV's.
 
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