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unless you own a tesla and have a nearby supercharger
Or just subscribe to a Tesla membership. :)

Little anecdote for you that I was told n a supplier meeting yesterday - His brother wanted a EV, doesn't have a drive way or easily accessible off-road parking, didn't want to live with public charging all of the time - spent a while looking at options, ZapHome or CoCharger users near by etc. but nothing much very close, talking with his neighbour and he said why no just rent a driveway of someone who doesn't use theirs. Light bulb moment for him. He ended up doing a bit of napkin maths, and figured out that he could save money on public charging and do a good deed at the same time, so selfishly selfless - old widow he knows with no car a 90 second walk around the corner, said he'll pay her entire electricity bill if she lets him use her drive for charging and changes her tariff to Go/IOG, he'd be getting a free charger with his SS car anyhow.

Genius idea IMO, apparently he's been using it now a few months, I asked about the exact figures but he couldn't tell me so tried to figure it out what would break even be on £100 per month vs public charging with his BYD Seal got to be 3.5mpKwh on average if he was doing 8k miles per year and paying 50p KWh public charging that would be nearly £1200. I highly doubt her bill was/is anywhere near £100 per month either.
 
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Or just subscribe to a Tesla membership. :)

Little anecdote for you that I was told by in a supplier meeting yesterday - His brother wanted a EV, doesn't have a drive way or easily accessible off-road parking, didn't want to live with public charging all of the time - spent a while looking at options, ZapHome or CoCharger users near by etc. but nothing much very close, talking with his neighbour and he said why no just rent a driveway of someone who doesn't use thiers. Light bulb moment for him. He ended up doing a bit of napkin maths, and figured out that he could save money on public charging and do a good deed at the same time, so selfishly selfless - old widow he knows with no car a 90 second walk around the corner, said he'll pay her entire electricity bill if she lets him use her drive for charging and changes her tariff to Go/IOG, he'd be getting a free charger with his SS car anyhow.

Genius idea IMO, apparently he's been using it now a few months, I asked about the exact figures but he couldn't tell me so tried to figure it out what would break even be on £100 per month vs public charging with his BYD Seal go to be 3.5mpKwh on average if he was doing 8k miles per year and paying 50p KWh public charging that would be nearly £1200. I highly doubt her bill was/is anywhere near £100 per month either.
That is a creative solution for sure! Unfortunately for me there aren't any houses nearby with driveways anyway (because Bristol), I wonder though if it would cause insurance issues? As I can just imagine it being used as some kind of get out clause for some reason due to liability.
 
Guessing there still aren't really any good options for charging without a driveway? From the looks of things, public charging points make it at least as expensive as an ICE car :/
Have you looked into what options you have nearby? The two I use are Arnold Clark at 55p/kWh only a few mins away from home, or First Charge (run by First Bus) which is now 49p/kWh (was 39p for a little while) which is further away, but handily located opposite a retail park so I'm not sitting waiting for it to charge. Worth looking into some of the lesser-known options as a lot of people seem to ignore them.
 
I wonder though if it would cause insurance issues? As I can just imagine it being used as some kind of get out clause for some reason due to liability.

Not sure, given it would normally be parked on a street no where near his house I'd imagine its less likely to get damaged etc. Worth checking if anyone else had the same idea, as we know insurance will literally give any excuse not to pay out, even if irrelevant to the occurrence.
 
Or just subscribe to a Tesla membership. :)

Little anecdote for you that I was told n a supplier meeting yesterday - His brother wanted a EV, doesn't have a drive way or easily accessible off-road parking, didn't want to live with public charging all of the time - spent a while looking at options, ZapHome or CoCharger users near by etc. but nothing much very close, talking with his neighbour and he said why no just rent a driveway of someone who doesn't use theirs. Light bulb moment for him. He ended up doing a bit of napkin maths, and figured out that he could save money on public charging and do a good deed at the same time, so selfishly selfless - old widow he knows with no car a 90 second walk around the corner, said he'll pay her entire electricity bill if she lets him use her drive for charging and changes her tariff to Go/IOG, he'd be getting a free charger with his SS car anyhow.

Genius idea IMO, apparently he's been using it now a few months, I asked about the exact figures but he couldn't tell me so tried to figure it out what would break even be on £100 per month vs public charging with his BYD Seal got to be 3.5mpKwh on average if he was doing 8k miles per year and paying 50p KWh public charging that would be nearly £1200. I highly doubt her bill was/is anywhere near £100 per month either.
That's great for him but a bit of a unique situation. Also risky when the old girl might have to move out which would leave him without a paddle.

The fact we are now four years away from phase one of net zero (choice) without the issue of charging inequality even having a suggestion of a resolution from the powers driving it is both terrible and not at all surprising.
 
That's great for him but a bit of a unique situation. Also risky when the old girl might have to move out which would leave him without a paddle.

It'll leave him no worse off than public charging at his local rapid hub, other than having to do a couple of short top ups per week instead of sticking it on the drive for a 100% charge once a week. So down in time, not money.

As for unique, I'd bet there are loads of people who could do it if they wanted/needed to, just thinking outside the box really.
 
Grandma at home all day and two bar heater on her feet is gonna be £100 a month. Not sure it’s that genius an idea tbh. Sounds stupid to me.
 
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Have you looked into what options you have nearby? The two I use are Arnold Clark at 55p/kWh only a few mins away from home, or First Charge (run by First Bus) which is now 49p/kWh (was 39p for a little while) which is further away, but handily located opposite a retail park so I'm not sitting waiting for it to charge. Worth looking into some of the lesser-known options as a lot of people seem to ignore them.
Sure petrol is cheaper ?
 
Have you looked into what options you have nearby? The two I use are Arnold Clark at 55p/kWh only a few mins away from home, or First Charge (run by First Bus) which is now 49p/kWh (was 39p for a little while) which is further away, but handily located opposite a retail park so I'm not sitting waiting for it to charge. Worth looking into some of the lesser-known options as a lot of people seem to ignore them.
The closest one to my looks like a 150kw charger at 79p, so very fast but also expensive.
 
Mostly infrequent longer journeys, I don't drive to work so it's just weekend trips to places. Maybe anywhere from 50 to 100 miles each way, but not every week. Probably averages about 5K miles a year.

Just use a granny charger. A normal 3 pin plug will do fine - it’ll be slow, and a full charge will take a few days. You also won’t be able to take full advantage of an EV tariff as that’s usually only 5 hours cheap rate overnight, but a decent peak rate of 25p per kWh will still be half the cost of diesel. You’ll also save a grand not having a wall charger installed.

A proper 3 pin charger and a low amperage (6 or 8 amps max) will do you fine.
 
Just use a granny charger. A normal 3 pin plug will do fine - it’ll be slow, and a full charge will take a few days. You also won’t be able to take full advantage of an EV tariff as that’s usually only 5 hours cheap rate overnight, but a decent peak rate of 25p per kWh will still be half the cost of diesel. You’ll also save a grand not having a wall charger installed.

A proper 3 pin charger and a low amperage (6 or 8 amps max) will do you fine.
The issue is still that without a driveway I'd be left trailing the cable over the pavement, which I think isn't allowed :/
 
The issue is still that without a driveway I'd be left trailing the cable over the pavement, which I think isn't allowed :/

LA's are required to approve things like this now, not cheap but its a perminent solution.
 

LA's are required to approve things like this now, not cheap but its a perminent solution.
Worth a check to see if the local council is doing any of the funded gully trials.
 
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