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Not sure if it’s been mentioned but it seems like Polestar may be allowing Polestar 2 owners to upgrade their intel atom computer with the new snapdragon. Exciting if true! Would like to upgrade mine and seems like a nice paradigm shift in the space.
 
It’s expensive and the RoI is questionable.

It’s also not new, Tesla did this years ago on the old model S, incidentally they have ruled it you for their newer cars like the model 3.
 
Update on my wife's kia EV6 the lease company have said no to the battery swap so that is the end of that , she's a bit sad as she liked the car also not helped by the hire Vauxhall Grandland petrol manual she has until her new car arrives in January :cry: :cry:
 
which will be ? - a chance to get a newer model.

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new F1 hybrid sounds interesting
seeems a circa 1KWh battery energy to provide 350KW over 10seconds, combined with 400KW ICE, a battery endurance competition.
You might wish to look here..
 
I had, that inspired my post, but it had not answered questions I had about battery technology given 50% of (short term) f1 power will be electric,
also wondering what kick down their woulds be into mild hybrids etc
If you had posted your question in that more appropriate thread then you might have got an answer.
 
Not sure if it’s been mentioned but it seems like Polestar may be allowing Polestar 2 owners to upgrade their intel atom computer with the new snapdragon. Exciting if true! Would like to upgrade mine and seems like a nice paradigm shift in the space.
This is interesting. Ive not long had my 2021 LRDM and like the idea of upgrading to the Snapdragon. Unfortunately I'm not so keen on the reported circa £1k price for the upgrade :(
 

Wonder if this has legs.
It depends just how dedicated they are to the shift to EV. We've already seen people throwing their arms up in the air and complaining that running an EV will likely only be half the cost of running an ICE going forwards, compared to the fraction of the cost it is now. That shift is only going one way and the end result will be cost parity.

The vast majority seem to be going EV from a cost perspective above all else so once that benefit is no longer there the only option is to remove the alternative.

Its easy to be an armchair expert... So I will. To me the logical approach was never an arbitrary timeline and then a cut off, it was a tapered phase out based on power output. So in 20## you can still have an ICE but the power output can't be more than ### bhp. Two years later that drops by 20 bhp, rinse and repeat until Joe Blogs has the choice of any type of car he wants with an electric drive train, or a supermini with 80 bhp. Or in other words make one option the more natural choice based on more than cost alone. Manufacturers could continue to use existing engines and simply detune them to meet the shifting regulations over whatever time period.

Arthur and Maude with one foot in the grave can still buy an ICE to do 1000 miles a year in, Flash Harry can have his hyper performance car to traffic light GP in and everyone else will naturally slip into an EV somewhere in the middle.

Instead we've had "look how cheap this is (if you can charge at home)" followed by "this is too cheap and it isn't fair on the rest of us". Talk about creating division on an already polarising topic!

As I say though, easy to be an armchair expert.
 

Wonder if this has legs.

I hadn't read the article but my first comment was going to be, it is only going to help keep German car manufacturers heads above water for a few years longer, as there is only so many protectionist policies you can put in place before the China car invasion takes over... the I read the article and the 3rd paragraph confirms this

"The planned ban was a key part of the EU's strategy to drive the continent's decarbonisation and boost the development of electric vehicles. But Brussels has faced intense lobbying, most notably from Germany and its automakers, who say they are facing tough competition from China."

Personally I don't care what the EU do or don't do, it is just going to be embarrassing for the West when China is the global leader in clean energy and new energy vehicles, and the EU and USA backtrack on sensible policy to shift the reduction in reliance on fossil fuels. So golf clap from me if they look at the short term over the long term.
 
Chinese(byd) are now having to build their own eu factories to circumvent the tarifs, so their eu penetration is slowed, and equally Stellantis/vag are producing more desirable cars,
so death of the germans seems premature;
it is just KS not imposing similar tarifs which will leave UK out in the cold addicted to chinese metal & it's ongoing maintenance.
 
My pensioner Dad has gone from "I would never buy a Chinese car" to owning a Jaecoo 7 within 5 years, and that's just the petrol model.

The only thing left to crack for the Chinese really, is driving dynamics. In nearly everything else they are ahead of the curve.
 
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Yeah protectionism policies rarely seem to work out well long term, i guess they get to keep big shareholder profits for another 10 years for the likes of VW and BMW using their existing legacy technology they've invested heavily in. But.. then what?

It just seems mad from a long term business prospect to lobby to keep yourself in the relative technology dark ages while you can see clear as day China is coming for your bread and butter.

Is this just a classic case of short term shareholder profit over everything else?
 
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