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It's our first winter with an EV, and I've noticed a considerable range drop due to all the heating running. We have a Hyundai Kona 64kwh which has a heat pump.

It's no big deal though. The Mrs drives it, the battery capacity is still ample for her needs and she loves preheating it. After a week of use she's left with about 30% battery, whereas in autumn when we bought it she'd be left with 50% odd.
 
bainbridge said:
It's our first winter with an EV, and I've noticed a considerable range drop due to all the heating running. We have a Hyundai Kona 64kwh which has a heat pump.

It's no big deal though. The Mrs drives it, the battery capacity is still ample for her needs and she loves preheating it. After a week of use she's left with about 30% battery, whereas in autumn when we bought it she'd be left with 50% odd.
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My wife seems to enjoy turning her Kona into a rolling sauna in the mornings, no heat pump in ours so she's losing about 50 miles over a full charge roughly. Like you though it's not an issue just means it definitely needs a mid week bump up rather than getting one just incase.
 
bainbridge said:
It's our first winter with an EV, and I've noticed a considerable range drop due to all the heating running. We have a Hyundai Kona 64kwh which has a heat pump.

It's no big deal though. The Mrs drives it, the battery capacity is still ample for her needs and she loves preheating it. After a week of use she's left with about 30% battery, whereas in autumn when we bought it she'd be left with 50% odd.
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We've only a 32kw useable in Golf. Just means you plug in more often. Still is everyone's first choice out the door. The ICE gets left..
 
That press release is a very self congratulatory piece but when you look at it in detail it amounts to ‘we rent some of our carpark space to Osprey’ … ’please use their chargers and buy something in our pub when you do’.

Meanwhile Osprey do all the actual hard work and take all the risk of the chargers.

I have charged at an Osprey charger in a Marstons Pub car park a couple of times.

Ironically, I didn’t eat there though but I did use their loo and I expect that was the case for most people using said chargers.
 
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Well it's a press release.

Just because it's something I don't do, I was still curious of the use case, business case. So when you Google it you find is happening on quite a large planned scale.

So it's likely charging at the pub will much more common going forward. Imagine all the work men, taxi men getting grub and a charge.

Brave new world.
 
The business case is an interesting one. It looks to me it’s more about monetising the car park than it is getting the ‘correct’ chargers installed at their locations.

You don’t really want to be plugging into a rapid charger that can output 200kw* when you are about to sit down for a lunch which takes 50-90 mins. You’d be looking at getting up to move the car as your first course arrives on a high power unit.

I don’t think Osprey have idle fees do they? But even still, if there is a queue, you don’t want to be ‘that person’ and you can’t control if someone will take exception to any bay blocking and key your car either.

*many of their older units are slower and start at 50kw but their newer stuff can output high power.

Ironically those older 50kw units are probably ideal for Marston’s actual customers but not so much for the passing trade just using the charger.
 
Buddy said:
Lads which EV charger map app do you use to find one when you're out and about?
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Zapmap is a good one, although they tend to be built into the satnav of the car itself these days too. My Polestar ran Google maps and it fully integrated into the car’s current charge level and predicted usage for the journey, so it would plan its own stops if required and would use the speed of the chargers there to estimate how long you’d need to stop for.

In reality I generally always know if I’m going to be doing a journey that I’d need to charge on at some point, so I plan ahead and filter zapmap for rapid chargers - don’t wait till you need one to try and find one…
 
android automotive soon all cars should be that way - I thought google were driving unified interfaces for their map systems to have latest charger status.


bainbridge said:
It's our first winter with an EV, and I've noticed a considerable range drop due to all the heating running. We have a Hyundai Kona 64kwh which has a heat pump.
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does the Kona break out how much additional energy has been spent on the cabin, to be able to undersatand additional heating/losses associated with battery.
(with large grid storage batteries would be interesting to know how they are also impacted, albeit different chemistries)
 
Jpaul you haven’t got an EV why are you advocating the way to find chargers?

Apple maps decent just to find or can use electroverse to plan. My inbuilt nav is pretty good now and also has a go at the availability.

I like to use ZapMap and PlugShare and update the pictures etc too. Cos I’m a geek.
 
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