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Well not yet. Once 21" alloys are sold, I will have.
Plus next time, tyres are cheaper.
Also a 45 wall is more comfortable than a 35 profile.
Doesn't the current Cupra Born long range have pretty large 20" wheels and that's a materially smaller car.
Yeah but the tyres prices are sensible rather than £400 a tyre. Apparently anyway. I don’t know as they are free.
Is a ‘pretty large’ 20 inch wheel different to a normal 20 inch wheel?
Not sure what a cupra born long range is. There are versions based on spec and a battery size option beyond that. No long range exists
Also the point you are missing is I’m not complaining about tyre prices after buying a second hand car for cheaper running costs
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My Cupra Born on 20” alloys was £180 a tyre for Michelin CC2s. I knew this before I bought it cus… you know… research. I could have bought some cheap Chinese ditch finders, or some used crap off eBay, but these are the only thing keeping the car I drive my family in on the ******* road.
It always boggles my mind when people pay for for expensive cars with massive wheels, then stick cheap knockoff tyres on them because they had no idea decent tyres were so expensive.
It always boggles my mind when people pay for for expensive cars with massive wheels, then stick cheap knockoff tyres on them because they had no idea decent tyres were so expensive.
I agree but you also don’t need to spend £400+/corner if your spend a 2 mins on black circles.
I assume it’s got Pirelli’s which are £340 online. There are other good options like Michelin Sport Pilot 4 S and Hankook ion Evo EV for £300 and Continental Sport contact 7 for £260.
Then there is the grief of dealing with insurance and when you sell the car. People will be put off a relatively expensive car with aftermarket alloys.
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I assume it’s got Pirelli’s which are £340 online. There are other good options like Michelin Sport Pilot 4 S and Hankook ion Evo EV for £300 and Continental Sport contact 7 for £260.
Then there is the grief of dealing with insurance and when you sell the car. People will be put off a relatively expensive car with aftermarket alloys.
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Just to expand on all season tyres for an EV. You WILL get less efficiency because most EV manufacturers will supply low rolling resistance summer tyres to help with range. Fine enough grip for nice dry summer days but not so much for typically cooler and wetter Uk spring/autumn/winter.
I would estimate I lost about 10% efficiency when I swapped my still legal summer tyres for the CrossClimate 2s. As they wear over the next few months they might improve but for me efficiency comes a distant second to safety.
I would estimate I lost about 10% efficiency when I swapped my still legal summer tyres for the CrossClimate 2s. As they wear over the next few months they might improve but for me efficiency comes a distant second to safety.
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It’s pretty clear what I was referring, the Born’s don’t exactly have model designations which roll off the keyboard. Long range = the bigger batter one as it is on every other car.
Again, the reference to the large size of wheel is relative to the car, it’s precisely the same as you inferring to the 21” on the Tesla being unnecessary.
It wasn’t that long ago that 14” on on c segment hatch was considered normal and a 16” was considered large.
Let’s not get unnecessarily petty, it’s just not needed.
You came back saying I can’t question a 21inch wheel as my car has 20 inch wheels. Thats pretty much the crux of it.
V1 18 inch wheel. V2 19 and v3 and VZ 20. Battery size is another option so there’s no link to range and wheel size …
V1 18 inch wheel. V2 19 and v3 and VZ 20. Battery size is another option so there’s no link to range and wheel size …
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Yeah, buying smaller wheels might seem like a cost saving if you plan to keep a car for many years (or tyres). But considering most tyres will last ~20,000 miles or more in my own experience of all my EVs, then just buying a decent set cheaper tyres for the original larger wheels is more sensible financially.
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Don’t get petty now. Sorry I meant factual
To be fair I knew what he meant when he referred to the Born “long range”. You have the smaller battery 58kWh and the larger 77kWh battery versions*. So it was referring to the larger battery models.
But yes, battery size has zero correlation to wheel size on the Cupra Born.
*2025 models have 59kWh and 79kWh battery choices.
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I didn’t say you can’t question it, I was merely pointing out the slight hypocrisy of your post questioning why it had such a large wheel when the model of car you own ships with relatively large wheels for the size of the car as standard on certain trim levels.
It’s not even like 21” is that big by 2026 standards. We’ve spent the last week talking about the iX3 and EX60 which have 22” options, the EX60 is 21” as standard on the higher trim level.
I took his point such large wheels being pointless on older Model Ys as they are well renowned for having terrible suspension. Especially the performance models. So sticking 21” alloys on there would be shockingly bad. Pun intended
A colleagues Model Y on 19” alloys has worse ride quality than my Cupra Born on 20” alloys. The newer post 2023 models allegedly improved it a bit and the Juniper model is much better.
A colleagues Model Y on 19” alloys has worse ride quality than my Cupra Born on 20” alloys. The newer post 2023 models allegedly improved it a bit and the Juniper model is much better.
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Didn't Jaguar start fitting all season tyres to improve rolling resistance?
It does according to the Cupra website, the only two configurations available to order now are:
V1 59 KWH AFV 230 AUTO with 19’s
V1 79 KWH AFV 230 AUTO with 20’s
It’s only an extra £1300 to get the 79kwh which seems like a no brainer when it comes to list pricing.
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I wish more cars came with small wheels, i much prefer the look, ride and cost of small wheels.
For a normal family size car i still think around 16" wheels are perfect.
For a normal family size car i still think around 16" wheels are perfect.
Not sure what you are referring to but all season tyres are usually B or C rated for fuel efficiency (hence rolling resistance) more similar to performance oriented tyres and usually not as good as premium touring tyres which are A or B rated.
For mid-size SUVs and similar ~18" are the sweet spot for handling and ride comfort - not that it makes you immune to pothole damage, etc. but around where I live it is frequent on the local social media groups where people on like 20" rim with low profile tyres are getting wrecked by the ever worsening road standards.