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tom_e said:
I feel a bit rough with the way my wife drives her EV, she's very on off with the throttle which is which is much more noticeable with the regen.
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Only BEV ever felt sick in was the new Mini as a passenger, can't put my finger on it but it felt weird in the passenger seat, reminded me of being in the back of the old Sierra as a kid on a longer trip that used to make me feel travel sick.
 
I've felt this in my friend's Mini too in the passenger seat. Come to think of it, I feel sick in the back of a lot of cars to be honest.
 
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Yeah my own experience as an EV driver and more pronounced as a passenger, is that OPD and lack of audio queues are the biggest changes to adjust to.

I tried to like OPD but despite forcing myself to “git gud”, it always felt like a solution looking for a problem to me. The lack of low regen (most done on the brake), or preferably full coast mode on any EV is a massive factor in my purchasing decisions.

So even before the Musk effect I did not like Tesla for this very reason.
 
Got my vin, car is now in production!
 

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ICDP said:
Yeah my own experience as an EV driver and more pronounced as a passenger, is that OPD and lack of audio queues are the biggest changes to adjust to.

I tried to like OPD but despite forcing myself to “git gud”, it always felt like a solution looking for a problem to me. The lack of low regen (most done on the brake), or preferably full coast mode on any EV is a massive factor in my purchasing decisions.

So even before the Musk effect I did not like Tesla for this very reason.
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I’ve turned it off in every EV I’ve had. The only time I’ll use it is going downhill as the Mercedes allows me to to use the steering wheel paddle shifters to change the level from nothing to full with 2 levels in between, and saves me having to keep my foot on the brake for long descents.
 
I suppose that rather than turn this into a debate on if OPD sucks or not (it does ;)), we should just acknowledge that EVs do drive differently but this BBC article is totally overblown.
 
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The one pedal stuff in mine makes me feel a bit off. I have regen set to 1 as it feels like a petrol car then. As above I use the regen on steering wheel for hills.
The other day I briskly accelerated up to 70 mph but had to brake hard and suddenly as a car pulled in front of me which made me feel fairly icky for a good while.
 
my i4 m50 has adaptive mode on the regen breaking.

If theres nothing in front of you/no roundabout junction etc coming up, it will just coast soon as you lift off the accelerator, but if there is a car/roundabout etc coming up, it will gradually apply the regen breaking to slow you down.

I personally find thats the most natural method of using it.
 
Add me to the list of people who flipping HATE one pedal driving. As long as brake pedal uses regen first (which is everyone except Tesla right?) then it makes no difference to efficiency (in fact is better for coasting)
 
I love one pedal driving in my Gen 2 Leaf. The only time I use the brakes is if some idiot pulls out on me or when I first start off to "clean" the discs, although these Brembo discs I fitted don't seem to rust. I always drive with max regen and the wife has never felt car sick even when I am chucking the car around on the back roads.
 
Qitarah said:
my i4 m50 has adaptive mode on the regen breaking.

If theres nothing in front of you/no roundabout junction etc coming up, it will just coast soon as you lift off the accelerator, but if there is a car/roundabout etc coming up, it will gradually apply the regen breaking to slow you down.

I personally find thats the most natural method of using it.
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The adaptive mode is the worst thing about the i4 IMO.


I saw someone describe it as basically magic.



It’s anything but in my experience.



It brakes for parked cars, cars at junctions, cars moving onto slip roads and other examples – all without warning. Coasting… BRAKE



Just give me a coasting mode for goodness sake – I’m the one driving.




The issue is the car has no context for what is going on, it’s limited by the data it gets from the sensor in front.



Still think the ID 7 is a better EV. Just infuriating that it never worked.
 
MrRongCar said:
The adaptive mode is the worst thing about the i4 IMO.


I saw someone describe it as basically magic.



It’s anything but in my experience.



It brakes for parked cars, cars at junctions, cars moving onto slip roads and other examples – all without warning. Coasting… BRAKE



Just give me a coasting mode for goodness sake – I’m the one driving.




The issue is the car has no context for what is going on, it’s limited by the data it gets from the sensor in front.



Still think the ID 7 is a better EV. Just infuriating that it never worked.
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I think you are being confused by two different systems, adaptive braking isn't the same as collision detection at all. Adaptive braking does work very well in my experience and I can drive my i4 to a destination quite often without having to touch the brake pedal at all, it also uses the GPS as well.
I rarely get the collision avoidance kicking in, which has been my experience with all the cars I've owned with that system fitted.
 
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My KIA’s adaptive/Auto mode is far to sensitive and a bit to careful. It does work though and I use it occasionally.

I can turn all regen off on mine by setting to 0 it coasts for ages as no friction. It’s meant for brake cleaning but I use it sometimes as it’s smooth.
 
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Yeah. It’s all good. Went with recession white because it hides the dings and scratches better. I would have preferred a brighter colour but wasn’t my choice.
It's a late 2023 Model Y Long Range AWD. 35k miles. HW3 rather than HW4 but seeing as we don't have FSD in the UK it seems it makes very little difference.
 
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