EV general discussion

[b0rn2sk8]

Well it depends if you want to go back to the ‘good old days’ where the sat nav was out of date before it was even installed in the car.

Then you had to pay £lol for an updated version which was also also of date.

 

[Tinders]

The difference is today you have android auto or CarPlay. You don’t need the inferior OEM solution from a mapping point of view. If you want accuracy for routing and charging then ABRP premium and a OBD dongle is a cost effective solution over OEM. It’s just another tenner a month sub to add into the annoying tapestry of life

 

[Nabinium]

Skoda has or had their updated nav on their online portal, free to download and load it via an SD card if I recall. I did it on my mate's 2019 Octavia for his built-in satnav last year.

You only pay if you want Skoda to do it for you.

 

[bigmike20vt]

Well it depends if you want to go back to the ‘good old days’ where the sat nav was out of date before it was even installed in the car.

Then you had to pay £lol for an updated version which was also also of date.

or just use Google maps which is what I do in my car free and live updates.... but that said paying lol money was always a choice..... yes it was insane if you wanted to keep up-to-date (I think nissan charged £160 for a year with live traffic

but you don't need them up-to-date . i bought my QQ in 2015. the dealer updated the map on purchase... then i did it again in maybe 2020 (when the new A14 opened around Cambridge).. but I didn't pay nissan prices. I think I paid £50 from a guy on eBay. I did my dad's BMW for a similar price.

 

[Diddums]

£45 more to book Le Shuttle in the Tesla compared to our Mini. That's Flexiplus, apparently the Tesla is lower to the ground so has to go in a single deck carriage.

Edit: the fuel cost is the same.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Yeah they had too many incidents of them Grounding out. Shame.

 

[Diddums]

£45 more to book Le Shuttle in the Tesla compared to our Mini. That's Flexiplus, apparently the Tesla is lower to the ground so has to go in a single deck carriage.

Well that's some of the fuel savings cancelled out then.

To add to this, according to Grok the fuel costs are largely the same as the Mini if I use the supercharger network. It estimates 2-4 charging stops to drive to Holland. So a direct comparison is that it'll cost me £45 more and a ton more waiting for it to charge.

This is obviously not a regular trip so I'm not bothered - the car was bought for the daily commute mainly and the free charging we have access to, but it does seem that for eurotrips the petrol Mini is cheaper and quicker.

 

[Penfold101]

£45 more to book Le Shuttle in the Tesla compared to our Mini. That's Flexiplus, apparently the Tesla is lower to the ground so has to go in a single deck carriage.

Well that's some of the fuel savings cancelled out then.

Get a plane ticket for that.

 

[tom_e]

All costs equal I'd still rather be driving an EV

 

[Diddums]

Get a plane ticket for that.

Nah, I enjoy the drive and stop at quite a few friends along the way.

 

[Kenai]

Nah, I enjoy the drive and stop at quite a few friends along the way.

Sneak a granny charger through the window when you visit, it'll cut a couple of quid off the trip, they work extra good through cheap UK to EU plug adapters

 

[Diddums]

Sneak a granny charger through the window when you visit, it'll cut a couple of quid off the trip, they work extra good through cheap UK to EU plug adapters

The friends are in Belgium and Holland where their housebuilding is very different to here, I'd need a very long cable and I'd no doubt get tutted at by the neighbours.

I'll just use superchargers, it's no bother tbh. I was just jpauling wondering.

 

[Penfold101]

Starting that indoctrination young:

 

[Kenai]

The friends are in Belgium and Holland where their housebuilding is very different to here, I'd need a very long cable and I'd no doubt get tutted at by the neighbours.

I'm sure it'd be fine with a few daisy chained extension leads in the mix

 

[tamzzy]

Edit: the fuel cost is the same.

Really? I thought charging is a lot cheaper on the continent?

 

[dale1uk]

My cheap Octopus tarrif finishes in 2 weeks

Looks like locking in for 12 months with EDF, once i factor in the £5 per month smart charging credit, will be my cheapest option.

Id rather have stayed with Octopus, as despite the recent 6hr charging limit, the ability to trigger a cheap charge whenever i want has been really useful

 

[tamzzy]

ooof 66p sc!

 

[bingham67]

What about BMW i3? 566 mile claimed range but 402 real range according to this article.

Expensive though nearly £50k or £60k m sport etc

BMW i3 driven: The first EV to make petrol feel second best

I'm far from a green-blooded EV convert. But I'm convinced the i3 is a better option than every rival in its segment, including saloons powered by petrol engines.

www.dailymail.com

 

[dale1uk]

ooof 66p sc!

Yep

Goes down to 61p if i lock in gor 18 months, but the exit fees go up so not sure its worth it.

 

[tamzzy]

566 mile claimed range but 402 real range according to this article.

are you surprised? WLTP is known for crazily over-rating range.

already discussed

I don't think so. WLTP range is known to be hilariously optimistic for EVs in general. So take it with a pinch of salt.
Personally I find EPA minus 10% to be more indicative of real-world range.

which puts the i3 exactly where it should be.
EPA estimate for the i3 is 440 miles, minus 10% = 400 miles