Evaluate My Diet

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Why only 1 red meat?

From what you've posted, you'll be losing as much muscle mass as fat. This absolutely does matter even if you aren't a bodybuilder, or whatever, because muscle is what gives you your shape. Ending up at your target weight with no muscle will leave you looking a lot worse than you could be.
 
Why only 1 red meat?

From what you've posted, you'll be losing as much muscle mass as fat. This absolutely does matter even if you aren't a bodybuilder, or whatever, because muscle is what gives you your shape. Ending up at your target weight with no muscle will leave you looking a lot worse than you could be.

I was under the assumption I should cut down on red meat? Should I have red meat twice and a vegetarian dish just once?
 
No, I think you need to change your entire approach. Work out a diet with about 2000kcals a day and stick with it for a few weeks. After that, evaluate your progress and adjust from there.
 
I'm being pretty careful to eat decent stuff. I plan my meals per week with:

MAX DISHES
2 FISH
2 CHICKEN
2 VEGETARIAN
1 RED MEAT


In Excel, and then add 5-a-day fruit/veg onto that either in the meal or at some other point throughout the day. I'm not sure what other nutrients/minerals I need?

My point isn't you're missing something particular (other than much healthy carbohydrate), but that your overall nutrient levels will probably be a bit low to sustain a healthy (not apparently healthy) lifestyle into the future.

Red meat isn't as bad as the Daily Mail would have us believe: it is high in protein, calcium and any other number of very useful nutrients that don't give people cancer or a second head.

Edit: (too slow, again) I think I'll have a read of the other thread to get more context as it seems like you've just gone BANG! - straight into a rather restrictive diet.
 
I think it's worth getting into the pros and cons of vlcd's, because by the looks of it that's what you've got yourself into.

I must admit, for a number of reasons I've always used and had success with very low calorie diets. That being said, it's not something I would recommend to anyone unless they fully understood what they were getting into, and thought there was no other way for them to achieve their goals.

I'll start with the pros, and bare in mind every single one of these on both sides I've experienced first hand -

+ Very quick weight loss, hugely beneficial for motivation.

+ After a week or two you stop feeling hunger, which obviously helps when on a diet.

+ Easy to keep track of.

+ Makes very little difference if you 'treat' yourself, since you're already on very few calories.

Now for the cons, and I would say for the majority of people these are far more important than anything listed above -

- Don't for a second believe that every bit of that 3lb a week you're losing is fat. A relatively large percentage of what you lose will be muscle, lose 4-5 stone upwards and you will look like you're best friends with a crack pipe by the time the fat is gone.

- Your blood pressure will plummet, which can lead to dizzy spells, extreme fatigue/tiredness, even blackouts, all of which I experienced.

- If you're more than a stone or two overweight, your skin had to stretch over time to accommodate that weight. Just the same, it will have to stretch back to fit your new smaller frame. Lose weight too quick and it will not be able to keep up, leaving you with saggy areas even after every ounce of fat is gone. Depending on how big you are to start with, this could be permanent.

- Try telling yourself it's normal to have sometimes 4 or 5 days between taking a dump, it's not possible :p.

- Back to the not feeling hungry part, this is your body going into starvation mode, it essentially stops feeling hungry after a point because it has come to expect not being fed. Many will say one aspect of this is eventually the weight loss will stop no matter how few calories you have, I personally did not experience this, though it's reasonable to assume many of the other consequences I did.

Those are the main ones off the top of my head, and while the pro list wouldn't get much bigger, there's plenty of other reasons that could be added to the cons list. Vlcd's are not necessary in almost all cases, and anyone that does decide to do it should make that decision knowing that they are putting short term weight loss above many negative health factors.
 
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Good post wedgie.

I think it's also important to say that people are (usually) overweight due to lifestyle. To be slim you need to make a sustainable change to your life, a massively low cal diet is in no way sustainable (hello anorexia) so once you are at your target weight what do you do then? You need to change your lifestyle again to the middle ground (i.e. normal).
 
The diet fizzy pop might not contain any calories but it does contain a bucketload of other chemicals that generally don't do your body much good overall, be it sugar substitutes, the colourants or just the acidic nature of the beast...

Will it make much of a difference to your weightloss by not drinking it? Doubtful, but it's healthier (in principle) not to.

To be honest, DcD, you don't look like you're eating anything at all. This might be fine for a while - and you'll get good weightloss out of it for a while - but you may well just be miserable, tired and achey from where your body just isn't getting the fuel it needs... leading to a 'relapse' as such. Not knowing much about your lifestyle/exercise regime/etc., I'd say it's generally (a very general concept) a good idea to go in for around 1300-1500 calories A DAY for steady-state weight loss that you sustain into perpetuity.

And your breakfasts are full of sugar and carbs of easy virture: swap them out for something like porridge or another high-fibre, complex carb breakfast. This is where things like beans-on-toast come in reasonably useful as whilst they're reasonable high in calories, those kcals are harder for the body to get to than something like Frosties (eurgh) and lead to a much more relaxed insulin response from your body. Which results in less glucose storage in the body.

Also, if you genuinely enjoy stuff like crackerbreads or whatever, then I won't suggest you change them, but there is nothing closer to the taste and texture of misery than that stuff (other than perhaps vegan food, but that's another discussion entirely). Whilst they serve a purpose (making boxes is one I can think of), I personally would be happier to get more exercise in and have something more along the lines of brown rice or whatever instead. But then, I don't like crackerbreads, and love my exercise.

And finally, I could - if I wanted - call myself a nutritionist, because it is not a protected term. Yes, I have a double honours degree in Sports and Materials Science, but that's it. Go to a dietician if you want 'proper' advice. I'm not going to say your practice nurse "knows naaaaaathing," but that you should be careful in who you place your trust.


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Excellent post.
 
Hey fellas,

I've gotta admit, this wasn't intended to be a vlcd, I just ate when I was hungry, and if I wasn't hungry I didn't eat. I'll eat a few more calories and keep making sure it's a varied diet with all the nutrients and minerals I need.
 
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