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EVGA Allegedly Cuts Out Original Developer of Precision Overclocking App

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EVGA allegedly violated the license agreement it held with the original developer of its Precision overclocking and monitoring app, when it developed the latest version of its Precision X 15 app, featuring what it claimed to be a "100 percent in-house" back-end code. EVGA Precision was originally based on RivaTuner codebase, which developer Alex "Unwinder" Nicolaychuk licences out to several major VGA add-in board manufacturers; the more popular being MSI Afterburner. The RivaTuner base, derived from Unwinder's pioneering VGA tweaking app, forms a vast majority of the code of the likes of Precision and Afterburner, with clients going only as far as to innovate shiny skins and UI ideas, or add-on features (ideas), which are then put into code by Unwinder.

Unwinder alleges that the latest version of Precision X, the one EVGA claims to be an in-house development, continues to be largely based on RivaTuner, including the more superficial bits of it, such as user interface dialog control IDs (the way the app takes inputs from the user), and text from the multilingual help system. The installer in which Precision X is packaged, ironically, continues to feature the licence agreement copied over from the older version.


Unwinder states:
The most sad and painful thing for me is that the company entirely copy-pasted RivaTuner’s unique concepts of displaying data into On-Screen Display. RivaTuner Statistics Server was the first tool in the industry that introduced the concept of in-game hardware monitoring via OSD back in 2005, I spent almost than 10 years on polishing it. And most sad thing for me is that original Precision was not supposed to include such functionality, so it is not included in development budget and royalty fees. I added RTSS to Precision in one of the first versions completely free of any licensing fees just to help the company to promote new tool and it truly became one of the most important application features. So it was used during more than 5 years completely free (and the company was never brave to admit that) and in final they originally “thanked” for free OSD usage by stealing it. EVGA’s brand new “in-house” OSD is also open a simple rip of open source FW1FontWrapper overlay. And If I were the developer of FW1FontWrapper, I’d read the story of RTSS and think 1000 times about it.

EVGA, in response to the allegations, maintained that "no code was copied," and that it doesn't see a wrongdoing in keeping the user interface consistent (UI) with older versions, since the UI is "100 percent designed by EVGA." It stated:

The original Precision was always a joint effort anyways, some elements were designed by EVGA others were licensed like the RTSS server, and many features were added because EVGA requested it. In this new version we rebuilt all back-end code from scratch. This will allow us to continue to add more features in the future, and not be bound by any "exclusivities."
There has been no public release of Precision X 15, yet, and so we cannot verify claims from either side.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/203166/evga-allegedly-cuts-out-original-developer-of-precision-overclocking-app.html

This could get interesting.
 
Kaapstad said:
Here is the link to the new version of PrecisionX

PrecisionX 15 5.0.0

http://www.evga.com/precision/
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Whatever reasons they had, it's not great. although original Titan owners and GTX alike can now use 1.3v without the need for AB hack.
Naturally I tried on my Titan Blacks but no cigar :)

Also it was getting me into a BSOD service exception loop and also crashed when disabling SLI. I'm giving it a wide birth for now.
 
Tbh they probably got fed up working with unwinder, he doesn't come across as the most endearing type of fella.:D
 
First impressions,
I like the simple 1.3v's (just because i'm too lazy to do the afterburner mod thing )
Monitoring sucks i like to see my cpu useage etc if they were going copy underwinders they should have least done a better job
Kboost same for most precision versions i have tryed instant pc lock up for me :(
Overall if i was doing a bench on my WF i would use it simply for the extra volts,, for my 99% other usage i'll be sticking with afterburner
 
setter said:
Tbh they probably got fed up working with unwinder, he doesn't come across as the most endearing type of fella.:D
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I feel a bit sorry for him as he seems like he's come unstuck not covering his own back legally. Very clever bloke but has maybe been a bit naive.


As with all things like this there probably is still something we are not getting and it might just be sour grapes
 
I do feel a bit sorry for him too tbh, this is his baby that he's worked on for so long and now this. Suppose but it does show what can happen when you align yourself to big corporations.
 
While I'm not a fan of unwinder, I do believe what he's saying, and Evga probably are doing something dodgy really.
For shame.

Wish there was another overclocking utility, Trixx allows more voltage, but I find it crap.
 
To unlock 1.3v on say a 780, do you still have to use a custom bios in conjunction with precision x?
 
Feel sorry for him Rivatuner has been going for as long as I can remember, it's a shame that EVGA have gone down this route I thought they were one of the better companies.

Good luck to him in court if he can even afford all of the legal fees.
 
To be honest, this is the first time I have used EVGA and this has already put me off them. I have read through the posts, comments etc and can't see any angle that EVGA are coming from with their response.
 
setter said:
To unlock 1.3v on say a 780, do you still have to use a custom bios in conjunction with precision x?
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I still have my sky bios on so i dont know sorry
Some warning popped up about above voltage may damage your card bla bla but i clicked past it ran i.26 through my windforce ok and did a heaven 4 at 1300core which it wont with 1.2v

Edit as per the evga forums link,, default for the Fan setting auto is OFF you need to turn that ON before you start clocking or else it's going to be nasty
 
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Curlyriff said:
To be honest, this is the first time I have used EVGA and this has already put me off them. I have read through the posts, comments etc and can't see any angle that EVGA are coming from with their response.
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Tbh theyre a company i avoid like the plague. In my experience their service is terrible.

triss said:
I still have my sky bios on so i dont know sorry
Some warning popped up about above voltage may damage your card bla bla but i clicked past it ran i.26 through my windforce ok and did a heaven 4 at 1300core which it wont with 1.2v
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Ahh, no probs. 1300 is pretty decent, what sort of temps were you getting under benching? seeing 65c max here at stock using a custom fan profile. 67c when oc'd to 1189/3305.
 
to be fair to them, their service so far on what I have asked and/or needed has been good. Far better than that of Asus when I last tried to get something sorted.

But, stealing work, plagiarism & general inability to admit to ones actions means that I am going to be removing the EVGA cards from the PC.
 
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