EVO Performance Tyre Test 2012

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 13:30

Dogbreath said:
You are surprised to see a tyre in the top ten results when only ten tyres were tested?

Quite. It came last. And those Kumho's everyone bangs on about came second to last.

Dogbreath · 1 Jan 2012 at 13:30

[TW]Fox;20923982 said:
No design change in 5 years pretty much sums up why nobody bothers testing it anymore. It's pretty old now - heck it was a GS-D3 rival back in the day!

You only feel its 'the most credible' because they are cheap.

Any thoughts on the Hankook? ISTR it came last in the Auto Express test, with the Goodyear coming first.

To me it further reinforces what I've always thought; these tests are a bit of a waste of time, especially when they test only one tyre size on one vehicle. Since the tyre is an intrinsic part of a cars suspension, I don't think it's a remotely realistic test to get a representative result. A bit like testing ten new medical drugs on a single person to find the best one.

Lopéz · 1 Jan 2012 at 13:32

Dogbreath said:
Any thoughts on the Hankook? ISTR it came last in the Auto Express test, with the Goodyear coming first.

To me it further reinforces what I've always thought; these tests are a bit of a waste of time, especially when they test only one tyre size on one vehicle. Since the tyre is an intrinsic part of a cars suspension, I don't think it's a remotely realistic test to get a representative result. A bit like testing ten new medical drugs on a single person to find the best one.

This is why I find buying tyres so incredibly difficult. The variables are almost endless, so you cannot rely on most tyre tests.

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 13:38

Dogbreath said:
Any thoughts on the Hankook? ISTR it came last in the Auto Express test, with the Goodyear coming first.

To me it further reinforces what I've always thought; these tests are a bit of a waste of time, especially when they test only one tyre size on one vehicle. Since the tyre is an intrinsic part of a cars suspension, I don't think it's a remotely realistic test to get a representative result. A bit like testing ten new medical drugs on a single person to find the best one.

It's crazy isnt it. How are you supposed to a pick a tyre? What with contradicting results and internet users banging on endlessly about how the Linglongs they buy are amazing it's almost impossible to know for certain, sigh.

MissChief · 1 Jan 2012 at 14:19

Did they test at the continental testing grounds again as they did in previous years? If so it's no wonder, IMO of course, that a Tyre developed at the same place, over the same surfaces came first. I know they usually do a 'blind' road test but those roads are also well known to the continue engineers.

Agent_Smith357 · 1 Jan 2012 at 15:37

Its nice they included the Accellera to show how terrible they really are. I think the PHI is supposed to be a cheap knockoff of the Sport Contact?

Dr Who · 1 Jan 2012 at 17:11

Dogbreath said:
To me it further reinforces what I've always thought; these tests are a bit of a waste of time, especially when they test only one tyre size on one vehicle. Since the tyre is an intrinsic part of a cars suspension, I don't think it's a remotely realistic test to get a representative result. A bit like testing ten new medical drugs on a single person to find the best one.

Said pretty much the same above, and I agree 100%. I think it is worth looking at the results if you have 2 particular tyres in mind, and both are tested just to make sure you aren't buying a dog, but in the UHP sector, I am always looking at GY and Conti's. My Scoob wheels came fitted with Brand New ZV5's which grip okay wet or dry but I wouldn't fit them through choice and when they go I will replace them with CS3's or AS2's depending on the deals at the time.

Once you start looking at mid range tyres it's then it becomes a minefield, but you pays your money you makes your choice.

[TW]Fox;20924158 said:
internet users banging on endlessly about how the Linglongs they buy are amazing it's almost impossible to know for certain, sigh.

That's where you have to bear my signature in mind

Locky · 1 Jan 2012 at 17:17

Dogbreath said:
You are surprised to see a tyre in the top ten results when only ten tyres were tested?

Ah right I didn't read the whole thing, I just assumed they tested loads of tyres.

My bad.

Housey · 1 Jan 2012 at 17:22

I was thinking only yesterday that the CS3's I have on my car are the best tyres i've had on the car, no question. They ride well, the road noise is good and grip and feel is very good, impressed.

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 17:25

MissChief said:
Did they test at the continental testing grounds again as they did in previous years? If so it's no wonder, IMO of course, that a Tyre developed at the same place, over the same surfaces came first. I know they usually do a 'blind' road test but those roads are also well known to the continue engineers.

I really dont think this has anything to do with it - I've seen several tests where the Conti doesn't win despite the test being performed at the Contidrome. Tarmac is tarmac at the end of the day.

I'm sure they'd test at the Wan Li test centre.. if they had one

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 17:31

Can anyone who has this comment on the differences they found between the Goodyear and the Continental? I tried to buy it today but everyone still has the January edition.

Simon · 1 Jan 2012 at 17:53

Seems the F1 AS2 dont come in a 215/45/17 fitment with the correct load rating (only an 87)

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:08

Simon said:
Seems the F1 AS2 dont come in a 215/45/17 fitment with the correct load rating (only an 87)

Whats wrong with 87? Do you need higher or something? They do a 91 as well in that size.

Simon · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:20

Ah Okay, was looking on event-tyres. Yeah ideally need a 91Y for balanced turn-in.

panthro · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:33

I havent tried F1A2's but I am very happy with the CS3's on my car. With the wet weather we've had recently they have performed incredibly well. I am shocked with the amount of traction they have in the wet.

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:40

panthro said:
I havent tried F1A2's but I am very happy with the CS3's on my car. With the wet weather we've had recently they have performed incredibly well. I am shocked with the amount of traction they have in the wet.

Didnt you get the memo? It's winter, so our CS3's are death traps!

acemastr · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:46

[TW]Fox;20926491 said:
Didnt you get the memo? It's winter, so our CS3's are death traps!

It's also 12c

Type_R · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:46

[TW]Fox;20925849 said:
Can anyone who has this comment on the differences they found between the Goodyear and the Continental? I tried to buy it today but everyone still has the January edition.

My quote in post 6 is exactly what they said about the differences between the GY and the Conti.

MissChief said:
Did they test at the continental testing grounds again as they did in previous years? If so it's no wonder, IMO of course, that a Tyre developed at the same place, over the same surfaces came first. I know they usually do a 'blind' road test but those roads are also well known to the continue engineers.

They tested at the MIRA grounds in Warwick.

[TW]Fox · 1 Jan 2012 at 18:48

Type_R said:
My quote in post 6 is exactly what they said about the differences between the GY and the Conti.

Better or worse rolling resistance than the Conti?

Type_R · 1 Jan 2012 at 19:03

[TW]Fox;20926560 said:
Better or worse rolling resistance than the Conti?

Sorry don't have the issue to hand (left it at home, doh!). I don't think they did a rolling resistance test.

Interestingly the Oct 2011 Evo Front wheel drive test showed the Hankooks to be ditch finders

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**EVO Performance Tyre Test 2012**

EVO Performance Tyre Test 2012