Exceeds marked bay area - really?

[PMKeates]

Glad that somebody saw sense and cancelled what was a ridiculous charge.

Thanks for explaining the difference between actual and hypothetical, but the point is that if no actual loss is sufferable because it's a free car park and if actual loss must have happened in order to successfully penalise a terrible parker, then what recourse do the owners have against entitled parking?

Loss != financial loss. If the parking space was unusable, they could consider that there was a significant detrimental effect. Much the same as if you parked directly across the entrance and blocked all the cars from entering, they'd be no financial loss - maybe even financial gain due to reduced wear and tear on the car park - but they'd be a loss of the public benefit of parking spaces. Evidently, as in this case the "encroachment" was so minor, it did not happen - somebody parked there.

 

[spoffle]

Glad that somebody saw sense and cancelled what was a ridiculous charge.Loss != financial loss. If the parking space was unusable, they could consider that there was a significant detrimental effect. Much the same as if you parked directly across the entrance and blocked all the cars from entering, they'd be no financial loss - maybe even financial gain due to reduced wear and tear on the car park - but they'd be a loss of the public benefit of parking spaces. Evidently, as in this case the "encroachment" was so minor, it did not happen - somebody parked there.

In these cases though, it IS financial loss, as they are asking to be compensated financially and they have to prove that your actions have had a financial impact on them.

Something which they can't do, ergo they can't chase it.

 

[spoffle]

Yeah, it's all par for the course. Telling you they are doing you a favour out of the goodness of their hearts, don't expect to get away with it again.

They can hardly say, "oops, we were trying to level an illegal fine where no losses occurred, but it turns out you're not some ignorant mark who doesn't know any better."

Better not to get caught out next time, because you don't want to be a test case they try and push through while you hope to get a good magistrate who understands what's going on.

I don't think they'll ever risk it going to court due to the extreme likelihood that they'll lose money on doing so.

 

[PMKeates]

In these cases though, it IS financial loss, as they are asking to be compensated financially and they have to prove that your actions have had a financial impact on them.

Something which they can't do, ergo they can't chase it.

I was commenting more on the morality than legality. You have point though.

 

[spoffle]

Sure, but with something as subjective as morality, I don't think much importance should be placed on it.

 

[PMKeates]

Sure, but with something as subjective as morality, I don't think much importance should be placed on it.

This is parking. Srs bsns.

 

[spoffle]

Clearly a lot of people in this thread take it extremely seriously.

 

[oulton]

That parking is fine, so many borderline/autistics on here.

 

[spoffle]

That parking is fine, so many borderline/autistics on here.

You dun goofed up, you gonna get jumped on now.

 

[Steampunk]

I don't think they'll ever risk it going to court due to the extreme likelihood that they'll lose money on doing so.

They've done it to try and make a point, because people were just binning the demands. There was a thread here where a magistrate ripped them a new one over pretty much every aspect of their business model, and even gave damages to the defendant.

 

[Participant]

Loss != financial loss.

Well no (another truism ), but as correctly pointed out by spoffle, financial loss seems to be required for a successful penalty in the OP's scenario.

I was commenting more on the morality than legality.

Fine, but that's not relevant to the conversation you were trying to have .

 

[Dogbreath]

Lmao at the diesel sound in that video

That did sound exceptionally rough. So much for smooth, refined BMW diesels.

 

[Dogbreath]

That parking is fine, so many borderline/autistics on here.

I do find it strange that so many people are almost proud to display how thoroughly incompetent/lazy/selfish they are.

 

[Freefaller]

I'm glad you didn't have to pay the fine - I would have complained/appealed too.

Sure, you did over hang, but being fined for that is madness and unnecessary.

Glad the right out come occurred

 

[mrk]

Yup agreed, you'd essentially be fined for having a long car which is ridiculous