Expensive lesson learned

smilertoo · 6 Oct 2021 at 14:51

Got 5 hdds when i started mining chia, 4 WD and 1 Seagate...the one seagate i shucked failed for no apparent reason, 8tb gone and no warranty; WD only from now on.

Steampunk · 6 Oct 2021 at 15:21

smilertoo said:
Got 5 hdds when i started mining chia, 4 WD and 1 Seagate...the one seagate i shucked failed for no apparent reason, 8tb gone and no warranty; WD only from now on.

Good luck with that, as I thought the same as you at one time. After issues with Seagate drives, I swore off them and onto WD only, but they can (and did) randomly fail too. It's just part of how both companies make large numbers of high capacity drives as cheaply as possible ie reliability has been sacrificed. Now I just buy whatever is on offer and therefore cheapest in the class/size of drive I need, as they are really no better than each other, despite the price premium that WD still seem to maintain.

iamtheoneneo · 12 Oct 2021 at 20:38

smilertoo said:
Got 5 hdds when i started mining chia, 4 WD and 1 Seagate...the one seagate i shucked failed for no apparent reason, 8tb gone and no warranty; WD only from now on.

And yet comprehensive evidence from data centres running thousands of drives into the ground say there is no clear reliability winner for them, let alone a home owner.

But I guess I will go with your results instead.

Quartz · 12 Oct 2021 at 20:52

iamtheoneneo said:
And yet comprehensive evidence from data centres running thousands of drives into the ground say there is no clear reliability winner for them,

Backblaze's stats indicate that HGST drives are the most reliable, with Seagate having some real stinkers. Apart from Seagate, all the drives have quite a low failure rate - around 1% or less.

Pottsey · 12 Oct 2021 at 21:00

iamtheoneneo said:
And yet comprehensive evidence from data centres running thousands of drives into the ground say there is no clear reliability winner for them, let alone a home owner.

But I guess I will go with your results instead.

Data center hard drives are a different type of hard drive to what we use at home so you cannot look at comprehensive evidence from data centers as any type of indication on home drives.

Avalon · 24 Oct 2021 at 15:33

Pottsey said:
Data center hard drives are a different type of hard drive to what we use at home so you cannot look at comprehensive evidence from data centers as any type of indication on home drives.

Backblaze use consumer drives mostly.

mrk · 5 Nov 2021 at 22:49

I don't use large HDDs any more for internal drives but when I did had equal success with both Seagate and WD. WD Reds or Seagate Ironwolf of course. Never had a drive failure and power cycles were at a minimum for each service life until I sold them on with no issues.

Out of preference I'd always pick either of the two that had the best specs for the budget.

demonix · 6 Nov 2021 at 17:44

Quartz said:
Backblaze's stats indicate that HGST drives are the most reliable, with Seagate having some real stinkers. Apart from Seagate, all the drives have quite a low failure rate - around 1% or less.

That from a company that uses regular hard drives in their servers instead of PROPER data centre grade hard drives.

I've had better reliability with seagate drives as one WD drive I've had in one system wrecked itself in short order by toasting 500+ sectors and having windows vomit a blue screen at me.

Avalon · 6 Nov 2021 at 17:52

demonix said:
That from a company that uses regular hard drives in their servers instead of PROPER data centre grade hard drives.

I've had better reliability with seagate drives as one WD drive I've had in one system wrecked itself in short order by toasting 500+ sectors and having windows vomit a blue screen at me.

Not really sure i'd want to pin my buying choices against your one dodgy drive vs data points for thousands over multiple years.