External Trunking + Cabling

psd99 · 4 Feb 2021 at 09:41

Quick question on running some cables externally, Looking to run some ethernet, hdmi, coaxial cable externally.

What's the best trunking to buy for this? Also which ethenet cable would you recommend?

psd99 · 4 Feb 2021 at 09:52

it will look unsightly without the trunking though
we're talking 4 x ethernet
prob 2 x coaxial

I guess for HDMI I could research that or just use the ethenet to HDMI adapters

i am also unsure what looks best for the cables when they comes inside the wall some type of O rings or something?

psd99 · 4 Feb 2021 at 10:26

Semple said:
I used HDMI over Ethernet for mine. It'll look unsightly regardless - you'll still have a great mass of something running along/up/down the outside walls.

Nooooo, terminate them properly into faceplates.

nah I'm talking about source side lol
ie the bit on the wall where they come into the networking switch.

With HDMI over ethernet, can you get 4k? I guess I need to use cat 6/7

psd99 · 4 Feb 2021 at 12:09

Semple said:
Ahh, if it's hidden away in like a cupboard then i wouldn't worry too much. Mine all terminate in a cupboard under the stairs, so they literally just come through a hole in the wall, the rack is high enough on the wall that it's hidden away.

I have seen 4k senders, but i think they're quite expensive, and i don't know how reliable they would be - so bit of a gamble unless you can find someone who's reviewed and can recommend.

Yes it is hidden away

I dont think hdmi cable can be ran externally that's why i wanted the trunking

but mind you it'll need a bigger hole than say running the other cables so perhaps the ethernet to hdmi converter would be better

which RJ45 wall sockets are decent? the ones I got are rubbish very temperamental and it is a struggle to pull the cables out. I'd rather not mess with them as long as they work.

psd99 · 4 Feb 2021 at 14:10

so I have never used cat6 before only cat5e/5

I just got a new crimping tool - distances are probably less than 20M

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 14:50

Is there a difference between cat6 rj45 connectors and cat5/5e?

Also does anyone know if i get some of these new pass through connectors
Would an old school crimping tool work? Or does it need to be a pass through crimping tool

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 15:29

In that case i might be better sticking to external cat5e cable.
That’s good enough in my opinion for my purposes,
My switch is a gigg one anyway

plus i wont need to buy a new crimping tool

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 15:36

Yep that’s it
Nearly everyone working on cat 6/7 don’t seem to have fond memories lol

i also think after creating this thread
That might be best to run it with cable clips

i was hoping someone know what that capping/trunking was for cctv system
Cables
I think that looks neater than bare cables

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 15:37

Quartz said:
Just round a wall or underground to a shed or garage?

It is up and alongside a wall
Ie from ground floor into the loft area

There are no bends and turns
Except when the wires come into the walls

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 17:31

Yes drainpipe mmm that’ll look weird though.

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 07:23

nice I don't actually have drain pipe near the area
the only pipe is the toilet waste pipe

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 11:11

fobose said:
What is it you are actually trying to do? Do you have the option to run the cables up in to the loft from within the house and drop them down in to the rooms you need or out of the soffits in the roof near the locations required?

basically looking to convert the loft into an office/bedroom
need to run some ethernet + coaxial cables from my networking switch + DAB amplifier from under the stairs.

I could run the cables internally it could be an option by chasing the wall out in the hallway, but it'll be really messy.

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 13:42

fobose said:
Ah ok, no real easy way to do it by the sounds of it. If you go the external route, would the cables come out on the ground floor (understair cupboard)? If so you could run them low around the house to hide them until you get to a downpipe?

I have a newish build town house so my master bedroom and ensuite is in the loft. I could not get a network cable up to the top floor in any easy way. I should have run a cable last year when I had AC installed as I had scaffolding above my garage to access the loft above the master bedroom. Hindsight for you.

yes they would come out of the ground floor, I could potentially keep them really low and then push them behind the sewage downpipe? great idea that wouldn't look so bad
or possibly internally get as close as I can to the downpipe and bring them outside there.

yes always good to get the wires done when it's all broken up. I wish I had done this ages ago

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 15:07

fobose said:
I have about 50mm wdith of gravel all around the back/side of my property so I actually ran my cables under that. I had to scoop all the gravel out first, and I dug down a bit deeper (60-70mm IIRC).

This is the entry point in to the side of my garage for 2x IP camera's. I've only got this pic of the one cable installed but I ran a second one (mainly as a backup). I've connected some APC gigabit surge protectors to each cable within my office (where they connect to my network equipment), just in case. The kenable external cat6 cable I used specifically mentioned you could bury it.

nice - how many cables could u get into that plastic pipe and also what is that pipe? that looks neat imo