Extreme Bass wanted

Matkinson · 1 Jun 2017 at 15:45

hornetstinger said:
He said extreme bass. The Wharfdale SW150 is 10", 250W amplifier. That'll only do so much. When someone asks for extreme bass, then typically looking at larger subs, 15" or so

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15HP.html

"Extreme Bass" is still definitely subjective.

For me, 500w is nowhere near extreme bass.

Try listening to car setups pushing 150db+ with 10,000w+. You can't see straight and breathing is a struggle. You really have to concentrate.

Same way if you're used to apple earbuds, the "bassy" iems will seem like extreme bass to some.

Not trying to sound salty, just saying you can get some decent bass within his budget.

DJToastie · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:28

Thanks for the many replies, i guess i should have done some research into prices etc first. I just like a deep bass sound, doesnt have to be exremely loud, just enough to feel it through the floorboards and into my body.

After looking at suggestions, i think i will save up twice as much and get a 15" sub with most likely a separate amplifier, then build the separates up slowly into a proper full size hifi, then i can get the old vinyl out of their dusty sleeves too.

hornetstinger · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:40

Typically home passive subwoofers are not that common. Most have built in plate amplifiers.
One sub I know which is passive is JTR Orbit Shifter LFU.

If you want low bass most likely looking (if ported) very low tune subwoofer so you get low hz figures <20hz.
Two sub which are very good are these

https://www.svsound.com/pages/16-ultra-series

But a PC Plus will be plenty for movies in your room
https://www.svsound.com/products/pc12-plus

Matkinson · 2 Jun 2017 at 14:15

My recommendation would still be either the:

Wharfdale SW150 (currently going for £139 I believe, which is ridiculously good value IMO)

or

BK Subwoofer, either the XLS for just above £300 or the Monolith for closer to £500.

All of these options are enough to rattle furniture and annoy the neighbours.

samcat · 2 Jun 2017 at 15:05

Matkinson said:
BK Subwoofer, either the XLS for just above £300 or the Monolith for closer to £500.

The OP said extreme... So it has to be a pair of Monoliths... (Adding a second Monolith DF to our home cinema soon on the other halfs suggestion.)

bemaniac · 2 Jun 2017 at 16:44

if you can find a used pair of mordaunt short ms908s they are floorstanders with a sub bass driver in each speaker.

You would need to buy a 2nd hand hifi amp and some speaker cable. Recommend something old and cheap but powerful like a NADC340

AtaRo · 2 Jun 2017 at 17:44

OP , Have you considered trying a PA Subwoofer.

For around £220 you can get a powered Behringer B1200D.

A refurb/2nd hand Behringer VP1800S + ep 2500 in bridge mode is sure to provide you with a good bass.

hornetstinger · 3 Jun 2017 at 07:44

You'll find those types of PA subs go loud, but don't play low. More about mid-punch than ultra low 20hz and below

james.miller · 3 Jun 2017 at 14:07

low is the way to go, even if it's at the expense of outright output. Gotta love those wibbly wibboly infrasonics

CapitalOne · 3 Jun 2017 at 14:14

Soundbar? Get good bass from my Yamaha and Phillips. If you want real bass though you can't beat a subpac M2

something daft already!! · 3 Jun 2017 at 14:20

Try one of these:

I apologise for the dreadful joke.

hornetstinger · 3 Jun 2017 at 18:33

There's also things like buttkickers, from reading you want to limit the range probably nothing higher from the unit than 20hz. But if you want sub 10hz that is the way to go, which can supplment you regular subwoofer

Matkinson · 5 Jun 2017 at 15:33

I'm going to assume OP is not trying to hit <10hz...that's a pretty niche market. Not a lot of music goes down that low, and even if it did, you can't hear it, and can barely even feel it.

I stand by what I recommended lol, or try some out in a local hi-fi store.

danza · 9 Jun 2017 at 13:06

I picked up a Rel Storm that goes down to a useful 17Hz. It's pretty big and ugly though, but would do the job. Should be able to pick one up for £100-150.

Most speakers, even biggish floorstanders, won't get to 30Hz. IME cheapish speakers with built in 'subs' aren't worth the bother. Look at the frequency response figures and compare them with a well-designed pair of regular 2/2.5 way floorstanders and you'll see that the latter is often a better option. I had a pair of PMC TB2 transmission line stand mount speakers that went to 40Hz; Mordaunt Short MS 908 only manage 35Hz with a 250mm woofer strapped to the side. Kind of seems to have been done for marketing and not much else!

Matkinson · 9 Jun 2017 at 15:55

Yeah floorstanders, however low they go will rarely if ever, give you subwoofer bass.

If you want bass, you want a sub.

hornetstinger · 10 Jun 2017 at 08:14

danza said:
I picked up a Rel Storm that goes down to a useful 17Hz. It's pretty big and ugly though, but would do the job. Should be able to pick one up for £100-150.

Most speakers, even biggish floorstanders, won't get to 30Hz. I have a pair of Dynaudio Audience 72SEs on the end of my main hifi and they manage a satisfying 28Hz, but these are not that cheap nor are they easy to drive. IME cheapish speakers with built in 'subs' aren't worth the bother. Look at the frequency response figures and compare them with a well-designed pair of regular 2/2.5 way floorstanders and you'll see that the latter is often a better option. I had a pair of PMC TB2 transmission line stand mount speakers that went to 40Hz; Mordaunt Short MS 908 only manage 35Hz with a 250mm woofer strapped to the side. Kind of seems to have been done for marketing and not much else!

I had a Rel Storm a while ago, I found it good with music but it had a poor quality crossover when using full-range, for movies it wasn't the best, being ported it doesn't have a sub sonic filter which is very important. You could buy a antimode and use it's sub sonic filter.