F1 2013 Testing: Week 3 Barcelona

I hope Merc have fixed the issue with the car eating it's own tyres.

I can handle Hamilton finishing 5th or 6th every race, if the car is genuinely off-the-pace, compared to say Red Bull. What I don't want to see is the car burning up the tyres and Hamilton and co. have to do 1 more stop than everyone else per grand prix and finish out of the points.

I haven't been following testing, so this may already be fixed.
 
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Merc haven't really run the soft tyres all through testing. Not on longer runs anyway, so I don't think we really know if this problem has gone yet.
 
Merc haven't really run the soft tyres all through testing. Not on longer runs anyway, so I don't think we really know if this problem has gone yet.

Almost no teams have run softs on long runs, almost all the race sims up to the last couple days have been all on hards/mediums, all of Webber, Button, Perez, Massa race sims last week in Barca weren't on softs. THe only real difference is every other team had tried softs at some stage most days, between 3 lap quali runs to test speed, and a few tests for short runs.

ACtually, I think two of the race sims last week, Grosjean and Webber maybe, went with softs for the start, but they both ended up doing like 5 laps then pitting. They could have been using scrubbed softs, because frankly that is a better "race sim" as most will start on softs. But cold weather, poor track conditions and graining, no one did anything meaningful.

Overall the conditions just mean the data on softs is useless, they grain for 2 laps, get up to temp, and are then rubbish. In testing when laps is the most important thing, softs were meaningless.

Considering also most teams only brought their melbourne packages for today and tomorrow, ultimate speed testing on a package you won't use is a waste, while engine, gearbox, electric reliability testing the package doesn't really matter, nor does fuel tests, and loads of other stuff.

Today Hamilton had a crapload of spare softs as they'd used almost none, Rosberg will have the same tomorrow, 5 lap stints, same stint over and over so they can compare settings, on the final race package(or near enough).

When we get to Aussie, the heat, the final setup, we'll see how everyone is on softs, up to now almost no one did any useful long run data on softs. Its also worth pointing out the Merc's were crap on any tyre, they weren't brilliant on the hards, didn't matter what they used, most races they could look decent and competitive, with Schumi often passing several people on early laps, and they'd hold on to faster cars for 7-8 laps then 5 laps before everyone else you'd see them sliding around like crap and pitting early or dropping places constantly.

But they did this with most of their stints, on harder tyres, and in every race, even when softs weren't available. The car was bad for tyre deg, full stop, not just tyre deg on softs and the really impressive thing is the overall speed of the car on the longer runs looks better than everyone else. Though I can't remember maybe useful race sims, they'd do 15-20 laps, and seemingly have less drop in times and a more competitive stint than everyone else. Sure it could be 20 lap stint and 20 laps of fuel, but those times were still noticeably faster than anyone else on their last stint of a race sim, thats where it became impressive. Very few cars could do 20 laps without significant time loss, 3-4 seconds, most were seeing maybe 1.5-2.5second time loss over 12-15 laps and Merc seemed faster and less deg than most.

Simple fact is a car that can go faster overall, can go slower and save tyres better than another car struggling for pace that can't ease off as much. Much of Red Bull's success has been a car cruising around leading to less engines failures, less reliability issues and less tyre wear. Aside from Merc looking good on cold runs, Hamilton's times over last years Merc were pretty amazing, he poled last year on 1.21.7 for Mclaren but Merc were a further 1.3seconds behind that in quali, so the Merc itself has made up a shedload of time.
 
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this years tyres are faster than last years so a lot of the time will just be down to that.

the contact patch on the tyres is a lot bigger so they have more grip
 
this years tyres are faster than last years so a lot of the time will just be down to that.

the contact patch on the tyres is a lot bigger so they have more grip


So it's either the merc car is very good or Lewis is just awesome or the rest of the field are slow ;)

Last day of testing has started....
 
Rosberg does a 1m21.277s on unmarked tires.

Alonso does a 1m21.024s to go top then Nico does a 1m20.723s Game on :)

edit= Alonso does a 1m20.809s +0.086 so close :)
 
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Both Rosberg and Hamilton are showing great pace in that car. I think there's growing evidence that the Mercedes actually has real pace.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck:p

in all seriousness, i reckon despite all the downplaying both lewis and nico will be leaving barca with a cheeky smile on there faces, it has looked like it consistently has decent pace over the tests, but thats not really the issue though, its whether they have the ability to take this pace and develop it throughout the year and stay with RBR McLaren etc.
definitely going to be interesting to see what comes of this, i cant see Merc challenging for the title but i reckon they will be in a good place to take some wins off the front runners.
 
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck:p

in all seriousness, i reckon despite all the downplaying both lewis and nico will be leaving barca with a cheeky smile on there faces, it has looked like it consistently has decent pace over the tests, but thats not really the issue though, its whether they have the ability to take this pace and develop it throughout the year and stay with RBR McLaren etc.
definitely going to be interesting to see what comes of this, i cant see Merc challenging for the title but i reckon they will be in a good place to take some wins off the front runners.


No chance of a WDC this year for either of them BUT there is an outside chance of the WCC.
 
Nico... a great driver. Who told you this. 1 entire win in his career. Think hes yet to acclaim that title don't you think?

LOL Nico is a great driver now, last season he was worthless, it's the OCUK way.

Anyway Sky reported that Nico like Lewis used DRS all round the track, which is pointless.
 
Anyway Sky reported that Nico like Lewis used DRS all round the track, which is pointless.

Indeed, we've seen good qualifying pace from the merc before, and remember how they went backwards in the races.

I've not been keeping up with any of the testing so far this year, but I do have them all recorded on the box.
 
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