F1 Testing 2017: Week 1 Barcelona (27th - 2nd)

ABACUSES AT THE READY...
Today's lap count by power unit:

  • Mercedes - 82 Laps
  • Ferrari - 63 Laps
  • Renault - 40 Laps
  • Honda - 1 Lap
Though slightly misleading for Ferrari as Sauber are using the 2016 unit
 
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Bottas Mercedes W08 1:23.169 59 laps Tires: Soft">● PIT
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Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:23.560 +0.391 38 laps Tires: Medium">●
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Perez Force India VJM10 1:23.835 +0.666 25 laps Tires: Soft">●
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Massa Williams FW40 1:25.956 +2.787 17 laps Tires: Medium">● PIT
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Hülkenberg Renault RS17 1:26.319 +3.150 22 laps Tires: Medium">● PIT
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Sainz jr Toro Rosso STR12 1:26.726 +3.557 15 laps Tires: Medium">● PIT
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Ericsson Sauber C36 1:27.710 +4.541 24 laps Tires: Medium">● PIT
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Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB13 1:28.712 +5.543 4 laps Tires: Medium">● PIT
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Magnussen Haas F1 VF-17 no time 7 laps Tires: Medium">●
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Alonso McLaren MCL32 no time 1 lap Tires: Hard">● PIT

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Vettel Ferrari SF70-H 1:22.791 on mediums wow
 
SS-89 said:
Nice lap time by Vettel on the mediums, faster than last year.
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Only 7 tenths off Pole last year and 1 second off the out-right lap record! Probably has more than 10 laps of fuel onboard too.

Gonna see a lot of lap records tumble this year, perhaps all of them.
 
The killer thing for Mclaren being, from f1today

(after a brief realisation I don't know where the quote button is now :p )

  • Mercedes - 82 Laps
  • Ferrari - 63 Laps
  • Renault - 40 Laps
  • Honda - 1 Lap
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Also, it's literally just occurred to me, how in the flying **** was Mclaren/Honda not throwing say 30mil at Manor to keep their doors open and put a freaking Honda in the back of that car.

Multiple things I've said since late 2014, they are rushing the engineering, they are getting a small fraction of the data the other teams get and they have to get their engine into another car. Dennis kept banging on about exclusivity, but surely for Mclaren if Manor was also blowing up, it would validate Honda as the issue and not Mclaren. Likewise if with the same engine they trash Manor but still do poorly it points at the car being stronger but the engine being weak, which again looks better for Mclaren.

I don't understand their wish to be exclusive Honda engine users when it only hurts their ability to compete. If you let a smaller team have them you get more testing data and no serious competition anyway.

Also though all through the last 2 years that they'd have to change concept, which they apparently have, and that changing concept significantly means they'll have the 'newest' engine this year with the least amount of data, which just takes us back to 2015, and what is in effect another rushed engine. They didn't start work on an alternative concept after March in 2015, but doubled down on it and only seemingly gave up on the compressor in the V sometime around April/May time frame.

They may still hit it out of the park, it's entirely possible to do great things and they may have done so, when fail in testing doesn't mean much of anything. But everything they've done in the past 3-4 years of development doesn't lend a lot of confidence to their ability to achieve a very different engine in such a short time frame and make it remotely reliable.

But yeah, the sport needed another team for numbers, manor just needed some cash to survive and Honda/Mclaren should have been desperate for another team using the engine... how did they not get together and sort this out.

Frankly why did the new owners not get together with Manor, say we'll give you 20mil, keep going, and push forward changes in rules that every team gets paid. It's absurd that based off was it a single point they go from financially viable for 2017 to bankrupt.
 
Apparently the Red Bull sensor issue requires the gearbox to be taken off to fix - hence the long delay getting the RB13 running again.
 
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