F18 crashes into homes.

Von Smallhausen · 7 Apr 2012 at 19:27

I hope the US Navy isn't third party insured only.

cu3ed · 7 Apr 2012 at 19:29

Reporting that it was a huge mechanical failure.

Von Smallhausen · 7 Apr 2012 at 19:31

K1LLSW1TCH said:
Imagine coming home to that.

Indeed.

' what's for dinner darling. '

' F-18 in the oven. '

stockhausen · 7 Apr 2012 at 20:28

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OUTRAGEOUS! :eek:

Werewolf · 7 Apr 2012 at 20:46

cu3ed said:
Reporting that it was a huge mechanical failure.

I suppose that is one way to describe the aircraft hitting the ground and breaking apart.

Werewolf · 7 Apr 2012 at 20:49

Longbow said:
l dump does just that, dumps it from the tanks onto whatever is below. Whilst dumping the fuel isn't ideal, it's usually better than leaving it on-board, as a lighter aircraft is easier to fly and it reduces the fireball on the ground.

Doesn't the way it gets dumped tend to mean it disperses a lot, due to the speed and way it's dispersed as it exits the dump valves?
IE at any height it doesn't so much come out as a line, but as a mist that gets spread apart rapidly by the wind? (I think the theory is, that if it's done at X height by the time it reaches ground level it's far too dispersed to be a problem).

Longbow · 7 Apr 2012 at 21:06

Yeah, it's not like pouring a bucket of water out the window.

Cleeecooo · 7 Apr 2012 at 21:08

Werewolf said:
Doesn't the way it gets dumped tend to mean it disperses a lot, due to the speed and way it's dispersed as it exits the dump valves?
IE at any height it doesn't so much come out as a line, but as a mist that gets spread apart rapidly by the wind? (I think the theory is, that if it's done at X height by the time it reaches ground level it's far too dispersed to be a problem).

Die hard dictates otherwise

But having it as a mist would make more sense. Would people on the ground be affected at all if a plane dumped fuel onto them?

cu3ed · 7 Apr 2012 at 21:09

Werewolf said:
I suppose that is one way to describe the aircraft hitting the ground and breaking apart.

Sorry I should have added the sarcasm tone to how I meant it, the Navy came out with that statement and I had a " no **** Sherlock" voice in my head lol.

Werewolf · 7 Apr 2012 at 21:41

cu3ed said:
Sorry I should have added the sarcasm tone to how I meant it, the Navy came out with that statement and I had a " no **** Sherlock" voice in my head lol.

Aye, that was my thought at the time I heard it on the news.
It's akin to the classic Soviet/Chinese "The dissident died of heart failure", where everyone ultimately dies of "heart failure".

Cleeecooo
IIRC they try to do it at a certain height normally to reduce the risk of igntion at ground level, and I suspect it could be nasty if you were close enough to the cloud, but it's probably not that bad if it's only short exposure.

Von Smallhausen · 7 Apr 2012 at 21:44

Would an F-18 have a RIO?

Usually single seaters.

drunken fool · 7 Apr 2012 at 22:21

There are both single and dual seat models with second seat for WSO or trainer

wkingsnorth · 7 Apr 2012 at 22:34

Von Smallhausen said:
Would an F-18 have a RIO?

Usually single seaters.

I remember them saying that one was two seater

Cleeecooo · 7 Apr 2012 at 22:39

wkingsnorth said:
I remember them saying that one was two seater

I think the news said something about there being two pilots

///Rage · 7 Apr 2012 at 22:41

That one in particular was a two seater.

Werewolf · 8 Apr 2012 at 00:41

By the sounds of it, would that make it a trainer or special variant?

IIRC the likes of Harriers are normally single seaters, but two seaters of fighters are often a training variant.

Cleeecooo · 8 Apr 2012 at 00:44

Werewolf said:
By the sounds of it, would that make it a trainer or special variant?

IIRC the likes of Harriers are normally single seaters, but two seaters of fighters are often a training variant.

To the best of my knowledge that'a exactly how it works and it would make sense as they were over home ground and they were near a base.

One · 8 Apr 2012 at 01:07

Anyone know if any pets were hurt? I hope not.

drunken fool · 8 Apr 2012 at 07:59

Werewolf said:
By the sounds of it, would that make it a trainer or special variant?

IIRC the likes of Harriers are normally single seaters, but two seaters of fighters are often a training variant.

Not always. For example, Tornado's, F-15E's and the F/A-18 B, D and F models are all two seaters. Whilst some are configured for training mostly they are twin seat for operational reasons

Tefal · 29 Apr 2012 at 23:52

Longbow said:
Actually to get picky, it was designed to withstand fire, not explosions. It was the explosion that ripped away all the fire proof coating on the main structural supports, which resulted in the buildings collapsing from the heat.

to get picky he's talking about the reinforced concrete pentagon which interestingly has highly reinforced floors to support much more weight than normal because it was planned to be turned into a storage building after the war not the WTC

F18 crashes into homes.

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