Facebook adverts tracking across different accounts in the same household?

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We’ve had threads of Facebook giving adverts based upon talking about something. Well, today my other half has had an advert on her phone, within the Facebook app, for a rug on a website I was viewing earlier today on a machine I’m not logged into Facebook on.


I’m guessing it’s IP address based.


But man, it’s getting really creepy :/
 
The big tech monopolies (Google/Facebook/Twitter) have their trackers embedded into the vast majority of websites in one form or another and on top of that there's also data sharing agreements.

It reminds me of DARPA Lifelog, this thing was supposedly cancelled on the day Faecesbook launched.

LifeLog aimed to compile a massive electronic database of every activity and relationship a person engages in. This was to include credit card purchases, web sites visited, the content of telephone calls and e-mails sent and received, scans of faxes and postal mail sent and received, instant messages sent and received, books and magazines read, television and radio selections, physical location recorded via wearable GPS sensors, biomedical data captured through wearable sensors. The high level goal of this data logging was to identify "preferences, plans, goals, and other markers of intentionality".

Another of DARPA’s goals for LifeLog had a predictive function. It sought to “find meaningful patterns in the timeline, to infer the user’s routines, habits, and relationships with other people, organizations, places, and objects, and to exploit these patterns to ease its task"

The DARPA program was canceled on february 4th, 2004, after criticism from civil libertarians concerning the privacy implications of the system.
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We're pretty much living in the world of Lifelog today. I guess there was still a bit of sense in 2004.
 
I've not tried it yet, but would a sandbox browser help? Instead of incognito mode, there is something called a container tab which I think is supposed to isolate that tab from the rest of the browser. Facebook could run and be logged in on that tab and the idea is that it doesn't leak out to the rest of the browser.

Failing that, those with VPNs can spoof different IP addresses for each machine depending on now many machines your subcription covers. My Nord VPN sub covers up to 3 machines.
 
They can track you using a verity of methods, you basically need to block them all to completely sever links between devices. Google and Facebook create a profile about you for advertising purposes. They might not know who you are but they can to a reasonable degree, prefect your interests and potentially your age.

Things to consider are:
The device you use has its own fingerprint.

Facebook and Google at this point are pretty much integrated into every website and can track you across sites using cookies.

They can track you across devices from your IP data but also the accounts you log into. This then links heavily to the first point.

They can also track you by sites you log into. They love it when you log in with Google or Facebook because links everything together.
 
It isn't just IP based - I have my own connection separate to the rest of the household but if someone is looking at say lawnmowers before long I will start seeing ads for stuff like that, etc. far too specific to be coincidence.

Less amusing when you suddenly start getting ads for something that isn't ordinary :s
 
mmj_uk said:
The big tech monopolies (Google/Facebook/Twitter) have their trackers embedded into the vast majority of websites in one form or another and on top of that there's also data sharing agreements.

It reminds me of DARPA Lifelog, this thing was supposedly cancelled on the day Faecesbook launched.



We're pretty much living in the world of Lifelog today. I guess there was still a bit of sense in 2004.
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Can't be a monopoly if there is 3 of them?
 
I wish that they used some smart AI in their ads I can only assume their systems are seriously flayed.. (as well as amazon and others)

I Dont know if its just me or its the same for everyone.. I never look at women's cloths yet I'm hammered with bra and yoga pant ads, I have audible with 1000 books yet I'm constantly get ads for audible (subscription), purchased a dish washer off amazon so amazon hammer me ads for dish washers..

I don't think I have ever clicked on an ad to buy anything.. Or seen an add for something I wanted to buy
 
edscdk said:
I wish that they used some smart AI in their ads I can only assume their systems are seriously flayed.. (as well as amazon and others)

I Dont know if its just me or its the same for everyone.. I never look at women's cloths yet I'm hammered with bra and yoga pant ads, I have audible with 1000 books yet I'm constantly get ads for audible (subscription), purchased a dish washer off amazon so amazon hammer me ads for dish washers..

I don't think I have ever clicked on an ad to buy anything.. Or seen an add for something I wanted to buy
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The Amazon ones are funniest. I bought a dehumidifier about 2 years ago and I'm still getting recommendations - even push notifications - suggesting I buy another :p
 
dLockers said:
The Amazon ones are funniest. I bought a dehumidifier about 2 years ago and I'm still getting recommendations - even push notifications - suggesting I buy another :p
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I assume with many of these systems the people managing them are too wealthy to use the service or too poor.. Audible have 1200 books I've purchased yet their system is unable to promote the correct books to me even down to no telling me when a new book in a series I own is released..
 
edscdk said:
I assume with many of these systems the people managing them are too wealthy to use the service or too poor.. Audible have 1200 books I've purchased yet their system is unable to promote the correct books to me even down to no telling me when a new book in a series I own is released..
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I dunno man, I was thinking about this since my last post. I imagine a lot of the things are obvious and there's no excuse (your book example) but managing the meta data of the billions of bits of tat they sell must be a never ending nightmare.
 
I often notice I get the most ads after I've bought something.

I'll buy something in ebay. And ebay will say.. You bought a chainsaw. So we thought you might be interested in chainsaws.. No. I already have one.

I stopped caring about this stuff long ago.
It would be far too much work to try and circumvent it.
 
I've been doing a lot of reading about this lately, and it's genuinely concerning what these companies track and know about you. Even if you think you've got nothing to hide and are just giving them innocent info, they are able to connect dots that you'd never even consider connecting. Facebook also infects everything it's on. If you have the Facebook app on your phone, it tracks everything outside the app too unless you turn off "off Facebook activity". It's so bad that Facebook will know when a woman is due her period and will push ads for products related to that. Its creepy as hell. Google, Amazon, Facebook, they're all at it. Apple has taken the moral high ground recently, but is then analysing every image you own so even that's not private.

I'm no tinfoil hatter but I'm slowly moving away from these apps, it's very worrying when you start realising what's going on.

This guy covers it really well, and is not a CT nutjob:

 
Diddums said:
I've been doing a lot of reading about this lately, and it's genuinely concerning what these companies track and know about you. Even if you think you've got nothing to hide and are just giving them innocent info, they are able to connect dots that you'd never even consider connecting. Facebook also infects everything it's on. If you have the Facebook app on your phone, it tracks everything outside the app too unless you turn off "off Facebook activity". It's so bad that Facebook will know when a woman is due her period and will push ads for products related to that. Its creepy as hell. Google, Amazon, Facebook, they're all at it. Apple has taken the moral high ground recently, but is then analysing every image you own so even that's not private.

I'm no tinfoil hatter but I'm slowly moving away from these apps, it's very worrying when you start realising what's going on.

This guy covers it really well, and is not a CT nutjob:

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Do more, better reading. He sells "de-Googled" phones; so I hope you do not think this is a well balanced opinion video?

He is somewhat correct in his description of how voice is sent to Amazon, but he is 100% incorrect on his "connecting the dots". The determination of the wake-up word is a hardware function. That is why there is only a choice of 3.

Anyway, yada yada tinfoil hat - the "trust" you reference is called a terms of service. It is a contract. You can opt out at any time by turning the device off and erasing your account.

Edit: as an aside, the easiest way to get a de-Googled phoned is to buy a Huawei :cry:
 
dLockers said:
he is 100% incorrect on his "connecting the dots".
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I said that, not him.

dLockers said:
Anyway, yada yada tinfoil hat - the "trust" you reference is called a terms of service. It is a contract. You can opt out at any time by turning the device off and erasing your account.
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I never referenced trust.

dLockers said:
You can opt out at any time by turning the device off and erasing your account.
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It's not that simple though, is it?
 
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