Facebook users be careful!

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Those who use Facebook be careful!

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Ok obviously this probably wasn't worded as best possible hence some confusion etc so I'll rewrite below to make better sense and turn of events.

Someone with the email [email protected] added me to MSN at a bit on the Op’s night and said straight out that my Facebook account had been hacked by himself and if I wanted it back - At this point I immediately loaded up FB and changed my password after seeing nothing out of the ordinary –

Then a moment later I got a new message from this person saying that was lucky. They then pasted my Facebook password, the password that it was, not the one I just changed it to.

I asked how he knew this and he said by use of many backdoors in Facebook Apps.
I asked which apps, he didn’t give a direct answer but asked if I played poker which i don’t but in the recent past various Facebook friends have forwarded the texas holdem poker application request which I always decline / ignore.
He then said for me to be careful and stay away from Americans (yeah I was a bit confused by that too) and that I should clear my temp internet files – Now I was thinking that it must have been a warning and this person was showing what is possible but later into the convo he said he can get any password of anyone's from myspace, facebook, msn etc and that it only takes 20mins but it would cost £100 into a swiss acc in order to get someone’s password and that I should let him know if I wanted that service (!).

I played along and tried to get some more info with some innocent questions but his answers were vague like the one above about Americans.

It was then that I realised perhaps he tried to hold my FB account ransom but I had managed to lock down my account just before he could do anything.

He obviously had been browsing my FB profile as he knew my website address and asked questions about my photography and commented on the pictures etc so basically turning into a general MSN chat.
Shortly after he said to hang on a sec and wanted to show me something, he asked for my windows account password and said he can get in as the Administrator account and disable me but would rather not to save me the headache – Now I knew he was BSing big time because at the time both admin account in Windows and my local account shared the same password, he was most likely looking to see how gullible I was because he’d shown that he knew my Facebook password and that I may have been shocked by it and would oblige to his new request.
I did not and gave an excuse of “phone call 1 min”

I wanted to double check so check net > users in command prompt to make sure the administrator account was not active which it was not, I activated it then checked the Admin account stats, the last logon was back in Feb 2008 which was me. I then checked active services and processes in windows and nothing was out of the ordinary, there were also no abnormal network connections either.

His BS was confirmed now and I didn’t respond much further past this point and have not heard anything from him since.
It sounds like a scare tactic, get the Facebook password because that was probably quite easy to get via a hacked account or session exploit or something then use that information to surprise a victim and get them to oblige to new requests to give away passwords they cannot get because the victim will likely think they have access already so would do as they say?
 
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i'd worry when he tells you i know your bank login details and you go and change them so he can find out with his keylogging trojan, sorry im just suspicious of anyone like that on msn.

its been known for many moons that facebook apps arent to be trusted if you like keeping your details safe
 
Thankfully online banking details are safe with multiple login steps that don't require keyboard entry for passwords but dropdown selections of characters instead but yeah it's a scary though and after tonight I certainly will be more wary of such things online!
 
when someone contacts you about it generally its BS.

i knew some real hackers in my early internet days they generally just exploited IIS to upload ftp clients onto peoples machines for warez dumps but ocasionaly i knew they got credit card details aswell.

non of them were the type to leave messages or to contact the people via there email accounts setup in outlook, its the silly msn script kiddies that do contact you. they are harmless but like to pretend there elite hackers.
 
Did the person actually prove anything? From what you've written they made a lot of claims whilst only producing your IP - which as you state can be got pretty easily.
 
I thought this person was trying his luck and basically a non issue until he was able to tell me my Facebook password - that's when I knew he could be serious...or she!

BTW anyone wanting a second opinion after doing a normal virus scan can check out http://www.bitdefender.com/scan8/ie.html (only works in IE) - just a heads up!

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No I don't. I use my laptop and my home PC only.

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They proved they knew my Facebook password, they obviously tried to change it but failed as I had done this already. Facebook sent me this email:

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	from	Facebook <[email protected]>
reply-to	Facebook <[email protected]>
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date	11 January 2009 00:57
subject	Discontinued Email Address
	
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Hey,

Someone else has registered and verified the email address [email protected], which was previously tied to your Facebook account. Because they were able to confirm this email, [email protected] has been removed from your account. You can no longer use this email address to log in, and we will not be sending notifications for your account to that address.

You can still log in using [removed]. (Your same old account password will work with this email.) We will be sending notification emails for your Facebook account to [removed]. You can change these settings at http://www.facebook.com/editaccount.php

Please contact us at [email protected] if you have any questions.

Thanks!

The Facebook Team
 
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Laptop is wireless, my network is secured using WPA though.

The person found my Facebook credentials via Facebook apps, not my PC which is secure (and not wireless).

I was just reading Facebook's application FAQ in settings and found out something I was not aware of:

What Other Users Can See via the Facebook Platform

When a friend of yours allows an application to access their information, that application may also access any information about you that your friend can already see. Learn more.
Applications and Privacy
All applications must respect existing privacy settings. For example, if an application creates a slideshow of your photo albums, and a certain album is set to "Only My Friends", it may only display that slideshow to your friends.

If you believe an application is violating Facebook's privacy policies, please report it immediately.

You can use the controls on this page to limit what types of information your friends can see about you through applications. Please note that this is only for applications you do not use yourself:

So basically because These options are enabled by default unless you disable them, anyone of your friends who have compromised applications could allow an attacker to access your (or any of your friend's friends) details?

So...this could mean this person has contacted others too...
 
Laptop is wireless, my network is secured using WPA though.

The person found my Facebook credentials via Facebook apps, not my PC which is secure (and not wireless).

I was just reading Facebook's application FAQ in settings and found out something I was not aware of:



So basically because These options are enabled by default unless you disable them, anyone of your friends who have compromised applications could allow an attacker to access your (or any of your friend's friends) details?

So...this could mean this person has contacted others too...

but the information available to the apps should not include password surely, so even if a friend has a dodgy app, the info available shouldnt be password.
 
If your sure your systems are secure then fair enough, however I don't see how the above explains it. Your friends can't see your password so neither should any app. Is it more likely that the app is reading your cookies/cache and they are somehow getting your info via that?

On a side note, I am sure I read recently about a russian group breaking WPA.
 
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Well it's impossible to know what applications contain this kind of exploit, I had only 2 applications so removed those and also disable stuff like notes, super wall etc.

All that's left is the defaults: Standard wall, Groups and Posted items
 
If your sure your systems are secure then fair enough, however I don't see how the above explains it. Your friends can't see your password so neither should any app. Is it more likely that the app is reading your cookies/cache and they are somehow getting your info via that?

On a side note, I am sure I read recently about a russian group breaking WPA.

The group broke WPA using a farm of PS3 consoles IIRC :D

But yeah, the person said they used a backdoor to find my password so I'm just trying to figure out at which point they gained access :/

If my machine was compromised then it seems illogical to only compromise my Facebook account and not my machine itself or my googlemail / MSN etc.
 
Have you contacted facebook about this? I am sure that they will be able to look into this in greater depth than we can. Do you save your msn chat logs?
 
Yes MSN chatlogs are archived and have been for years! I never thought of contacting Facebook! will do this ASAP thanks !
 
Are you sure you didn't have your password set to something ridiculously simple that could have been worked out with all your social network details? Which we will refer to from here on out as the Palin method.
 
Password was a mixture of letters and did not spell any name or word in any dictionary (simply put, it was a jumble of letters)

I've since changed all my passwords to variations of numbers, characters and letters just to be safe incase other websites have exploits waiting to happen...
 
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