Factory Farming

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Did anyone watch Panorama the other night about US style factory mega farms coming to the UK? Wow Panorama has really gone downhill. You could see they were hoping to get some sensationalism out of the English farmer they flew to America, but he basically said yeah this is the future and it's not that bad.

Then when they bought a bunch of products with union jacks on them, with their "secret undercover camera" lol what a joke. Why not just film the package after you have bought it with a normal camera? They sent them off to Germany to test the isotopes to see where the meat reeaally comes from, and low and behold all of it is actually British except for some sausages which apparently contain a bit of foreign meat mixed in. SHOCK HORROR!

And what was the presenter wearing the whole time? Those weird massive shoes?? He looked like he was a rejected extra from Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

Anyway there is nothing wrong with mega farms IMO, that is what most people want: cheap low quality food. You always have the option to pay extra for organic whatever.

I'm lucky that I live in a low population density surrounded by farm land and can get 60% of my food grown within 30 miles of my house. The farms do a CSA program (community supported agriculture) where I pay one farm $400 for a 6 month subscription, and each month I get a bundle of locally produced grass fed organic beef and lamb. It works out to about $7/lb for prime cuts of great quality healthy meat. Then for fruit/veggies/eggs/poultry/honey/bread and stuff I pay another 2 farms and each week we go and pick up a box of produce from a meeting place in town.

The money goes right to the farmer, I literally put the cash right in her hand.

The down side is it's only available during the growing season april-november. Plus there are a limited number of CSA "shares" available on each farm so obviously you are not going to feed the world this way. Sometimes you have to be on a waiting list.

Anyone who has tasted American supermarket food will tell you how **** it is compared to the UK but I think with these mega farms the quality in the UK is going to drop down to American standards. Just another way the UK is being Americanised. If you want to see what you are in for watch the movie "Food Inc" or google image search "feedlot".
 
I've never understood battery farming opposition movements, they want to free the chickens from a small room and have the people in charge put in a small room.

You put a chicken in a box and what have you got?, an uncooked KFC.
Put a human in a box and what have you got?, a ticking time bomb, that's what.
 
we already have superfarms dont we ? was an iceberg lettuce farm on tv the other week where they where growing lettuces for half of europe , was ridiculous
 
There was an item about superfarms on Countryfile a while ago. There was nothing outrageous about them in fact it looked like the way forward for economic food production.
 
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Couldn't care less with veg. If people want to buy pap, let them. People who want nice food can, and always will, pay a little more.

Livestock is very different IMO. I love meat, but no animal should be put through what some battery farmed livestock (especially poultry / pigs) do. Also tastes a million times better from a decent source, so win win for me.
 
Couldn't care less with veg. If people want to buy pap, let them. People who want nice food can, and always will, pay a little more.

Livestock is very different IMO. I love meat, but no animal should be put through what some battery farmed livestock (especially poultry / pigs) do. Also tastes a million times better from a decent source, so win win for me.

Free range, organic and all that rubbish leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I dislike the wanton destruction of our environment by those types of foods. I want my meat to be farmed efficiently.
 
Some people want low cost low quality. Some want high cost high quality. I want both - something quick, easy and cheap during the week from tesco, and something high quality from an award winning butcher at the weekends. Megafarms don't bother me in the slightest.
 
Yeah, if I'm to be honest about things... I agree with the big white dog there.

I do believe that organic wishy washy farming doesn't produce the best meat though. I think massive factories are where we'll see the innovation. The quality of produce in the USA is fantastic.
 
Free range, organic and all that rubbish leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I dislike the wanton destruction of our environment by those types of foods. I want my meat to be farmed efficiently.

Not sure if that's a serious post or not, so won't point out the obvious :p

I know my views aren't shared by all, so won't get into it. I think livestock deserve respect. Some people don't. Here isn't the place to debate it. Do that in the supermarket / butchers.
 
With the population growing more rapidly by the year this is the future, whether you like it or not.

Exactly the same principal with electronic goods made in China. People whinge about how expensive TV's are, imagine how much more expensive they would be if they were produced over here.

Double edged sword this one.
 
had its owner saying they weren't looking to sell their product for a reduced rate, even though their stuff was cheaper to produce... they just wanted more profit... so they weren't doing it to cut costs for the end user.

Double you, tee eff?

Why on earth would they be doing it to cut costs for the end user? They would do it to be more competitive and make more money. The laws of the market would bring down end user price though.
 
Fashionable trendy organic food production makes no economic sense.

Any product that makes profit makes economic sense, why produce cheap meat with very low profit margins and large cost outlays when for a lot less work you can produce much more profitable organic food?
 
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