Fan speed and temp.

johnnybb

johnnybb

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Hello

Just after some advice. I finally built my first pc with the following specs

Ryzen 5600 with stock cooler
6600 challenger
16 GB ram
Cool master q300l

So my temperatures at idle are 55c with fan speed of 52% ISH. When YouTubing etc it goes to 60c at 65%

When gaming it goes to 75-85c depending on which game and a fan speed of 100%.

I appreciate that the temperature will be higher with a stock cooler but because the parts are low to mid range I thought it would be sufficient. My concern is more the fan speed being at 100% all the time when gaming. Is this normal for the wraith cooler?

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Congratulations on your first build!

The motherboard governs the fan speeds. You can check the fan curve set in the UEFI setup.

However, the best way to achieve lower temps and noise is with an aftermarket cooler and good air flow through your case.
 
You don't have to spend a fortune on a aftermarket cooler either. Thermalright does some excellent value for money coolers around £18 that would be perfect for your cpu. Your case has a maximum cooler height of 159mm so the Thermalright Assassin King 120 at 148mm would be bang on. It will cool much better while being a lot quieter too. I notice the case only comes with aa single 120mm fan installed at the rear so if you haven't already done so get a couple of 120mm or even better 140mm fans for the front of the case which will help with keeping things cool. Don't go overboard a couple of Arctic P12 or P14 fans will be good enough, it's just to get more airflow through the case. You can then control them with the motherboards bios.

Talking of motherboard bios, it's probably a very good idea to update yours. What motherboard do you have? Have you gone into the bios to get the memory running at it's correct speed?
 
A bit of curve optimisation on the CPU would also help the temps. And if you want to control the fans in Windows, grab Fan Control. Great little app.

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Thanks for the replies

I've changed the ram speed In bios but haven't updated it so the version will be whatever came on it ( b550m wifi) would this make a difference to CPU temps then?

My concern with changing the CPU fan is damaging or lifting the CPU when trying to remove it.

Curve optimisation is Voltage right? If so I don't think I'm experienced enough to start messing with those kinds of settings

I have 2 140 artic fans in the front and 1 120 artic in the back. (I threw the one that came with the case away as it's garbage) I was thinking of adding another 140 on the top near the back? Good idea?

Cheers for mentioning the fan control program. I was looking for one!
 
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Is noise the issue or temperature? Adjusting the curve does nothing to change the fact it's at 100% during gaming. With your current hardware, a fan curve would only be used to stop it spinning up too much outside of games at the expense of a higher temperature.

Also would've thought the GPU would be the one ramping up while watching videos in a browser, but not always. How are you observing the fan speeds currently, side note - what's the load like on the GPU when gaming?
 
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It can feel a bit like the most fiddly and messy part of building and upgrading but don't over think it, watch a few videos and take your time. It's not glued down, give it a tiny twist once you've loosened and undone the heatsink mount. And maybe don't play a game right before if the heatsink is at its max ability and fan at 100% :D

Just watch Youtube for 30 seconds ...
 
yeah don't worry too much, plenty of youtube videos that you can watch if you're not sure about something. Just stop and watch how someone else does it.

Definitely worth spending 20 pounds on a cooler.
 
johnnybb said:
I appreciate that the temperature will be higher with a stock cooler but because the parts are low to mid range I thought it would be sufficient. My concern is more the fan speed being at 100% all the time when gaming. Is this normal for the wraith cooler?
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Stock coolers are pretty much just "adequate", i.e. to prevent the CPU from throttling under regular usage. It is normal for them to be hot and a little noisy. AMD only bundle their most basic model with your CPU too (wraith stealth), which doesn't help.
 
Tetras said:
Stock coolers are pretty much just "adequate", i.e. to prevent the CPU from throttling under regular usage. It is normal for them to be hot and a little noisy. AMD only bundle their most basic model with your CPU too (wraith stealth), which doesn't help.
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So I left warzone on for 2-3 hours and the CPU temp climbed from 80 straight away to a max of 86c by the end.

Noise is not the issue, it's the worry of the temp being so high.

I will eventually upgrade the fan but most games tend to stick to 70-80. The GPU seems to cope much better. Rarely high temps
 
Tetras said:
Stock coolers are pretty much just "adequate", i.e. to prevent the CPU from throttling under regular usage. It is normal for them to be hot and a little noisy. AMD only bundle their most basic model with your CPU too (wraith stealth), which doesn't help.
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So I left warzone on for 2-3 hours and the CPU temp climbed from 80 straight away to a max of 86c by the end.

Noise is not the issue, it's the worry of the temp being so high.

I will eventually upgrade the fan but most games tend to stick to 70-80. The GPU seems to cope much better. Rarely high temps
 
johnnybb said:
So I left warzone on for 2-3 hours and the CPU temp climbed from 80 straight away to a max of 86c by the end.

Noise is not the issue, it's the worry of the temp being so high.

I will eventually upgrade the fan but most games tend to stick to 70-80. The GPU seems to cope much better. Rarely high temps
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Those temps are fine. AMD say these CPUs are good to 100 degrees. You could try the curve optimiser to get it down a bit.
 
Looks quite normal also you have a pretty cramped case.

FYI my overclocked Ryzen 7 7700 + 200mhz with Noctua D14 x2 fans with Coolermaster Stacker 6x12cm case fans is idling at 36. Max temp usually 83. Room temp 17

Fairly close match on CPU, as mine is the next model up, the non X version, 8 core.
 
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Q300L doesn't have much airflow at all, IIRC people were modding the front by drilling holes in the chassis behind the grille.

I suspect its high case temperature rather than the cooler being inadequate. Try running the PC with the side panel open.
 
LuckyBenski said:
Q300L doesn't have much airflow at all, IIRC people were modding the front by drilling holes in the chassis behind the grille.

I suspect its high case temperature rather than the cooler being inadequate. Try running the PC with the side panel open.
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Yeah I'm seeing similar things with tiny cramped cases like that, no space above motherboard so it just bakes.

My coolermaster has several inches space between top of motherboard and case inside, so if there is any heat build up it's out of the way at the top.
 
hornetstinger said:
Yeah I'm seeing similar things with tiny cramped cases like that, no space above motherboard so it just bakes.

My coolermaster has several inches space between top of motherboard and case inside, so if there is any heat build up it's out of the way at the top.
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It's more the lack of holes in the case to be honest. Cramped cases can at least have the fans work harder!
 
LuckyBenski said:
It's more the lack of holes in the case to be honest. Cramped cases can at least have the fans work harder!
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yup I cut out the restricted mesh on couple of cases. Mesh on the case plus a fan guard, I removed both. Same for the CM1 modules it has fan guard even though it's behind a mesh and foam. plus the CM module has a plate with holes that blocks the airflow.

7700, 62 degrees in games max
 
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