Fans stabbed in Naples

I said not English teams - wow you're stupid. If English fans are always getting in trouble in Italy is it solely Italy's fault? No.

I suppose you think Juventus were guilty in 1985 as well.

You quote my post as "utter BS" yet you're the one who can't read for ****, can't make a valid point and can't respond to posts properly. Well done.

You're clearly the stupid 1. You questioned the amount of times supporters of English sides have been stabbed in recent years, I've listed a few for you.

Off the top of my head I gave 2 examples of extreme problems caused by Italian hooligans where English sides were not involved as you asked. I can quickly name 2 more examples too; a game between Hajduk Split and Roma and just the other week Napoli supporters caused trouble in Romania.

And yes Juventus played their part in the trouble in 1985.

You're clearly defended your country however you're embarrassing yourself. It's well documented the trouble Italian supporters have caused in recent years.

yet only English ones named...always innocent though the English. Always. Always someone else's fault) and can't respond to posts properly. Well done.

I think you're the 1 that needs to lear to read. Read my post again and you'll see I gave 2 major examples. As above, you're embarrassing yourself :p
 
I'm embarassing myself? Bit hard with you around.

I've defended my country eh? Read my first post. Sure I said that before. You made no reference to Serbian fans, nor Turkish ones - both sets are worse - and nothing about how if English fans can go to all manner of countries and get in trouble - yes it isn't just Italy - they must play their part.

Juventus even partly guilty in 1985. That gave me a good laugh and tells me everything about you I need to know. Good day.
 
Rome - Hooligan violence remains a troubling issue for Italian football ahead of the start of a season that sees the introduction of fan cards to regulate access to games.

The Interior Ministry has sponsored the card since last year and made it mandatory this season for fans of professional clubs who want to buy a season ticket and follow their team to away games.

Those who have been banned from stadiums for violent behaviour, about 5,000 people, cannot get the card - a norm which appears to have irked die-hard fans.

Anti-card protests were held last season in many stadiums and fans rallied in November in Rome to protest against what they consider a way to keep people under control and limit their personal freedom.

Ahead of the Serie A season kick-off this weekend and with minor leagues already started, clubs have issued about 200,000 cards, seeing season-ticket sales fall by 20 per cent.

A large number of supporters decided not to get the card, seemingly preferring to spend more buying single tickets for each game.

'Those against the card either have not understood, are pretending not to understand, or believe that violence in the stadiums is a legitimate thing,' Minister Roberto Maroni said.

'We think otherwise. The card is not a way of blacklisting, nor an instrument to control the fans. It is a way to favour good fans and leave out those who go to the stadium with other ideas, which have nothing to do with the values of sport.'

The ministry has already had some good results by bringing stewards into the stadiums, increasing police surveillance and banning fans from travelling away to high-tension games.

The measures brought violent acts in the past season down 42 per cent from 2009, but clashes involving hooligans and police were frequent in the second half of the season.

Furthermore, signs that violence remains rooted in Italian football came from several pre-season friendlies.

An early August game that Roma played away to Serie B side Pescara was followed by riots that left two home fans stabbed, 10 wounded - five of them policemen - and dozens of cars damaged.

Roma fans also marred the Italian Supercup game that their side lost 3-1 at Inter Milan on Saturday.

It was the last match before the official introduction of the card system and hooligans hurled smoke bombs on the pitch, chanted racist choirs and pelted home fans with bottles and other objects.

Hundreds of them vandalized a bar on a highway rest station - a feat that seems to have become a ritual for fans from other teams, too.

The obvious question is if they would have behaved differently with the card in their wallets, which would have allowed them access the stadium through fast lanes and also get discounts at the bar they destroyed.

The card, meanwhile, seems to have created a dangerous split between supporters of the same club, with card holders being called traitors by the others.

Policemen, who fall under the Interior Ministry, have also been lukewarm about the card, which, having to be controlled, is expected to increase their workload.

Some officials also fear that groups of fans without cards will still go to away games and mix with the home fans, as they will not be allowed in the sectors reserved for card-holding guests.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/n...unt-Italian-football-despite-fan-card-Feature
 
I'm embarassing myself? Bit hard with you around.

I've defended my country eh? Read my first post. Sure I said that before. You made no reference to Serbian fans, nor Turkish ones - both sets are worse - and nothing about how if English fans can go to all manner of countries and get in trouble - yes it isn't just Italy - they must play their part.

Juventus even partly guilty in 1985. That gave me a good laugh and tells me everything about you I need to know. Good day.

You don't get many Serbian teams in European competitions so it goes unnoticed. As for Turkey; there were 2 major incidents 10 years or so ago but since then I can't recall any trouble they've caused in Europe. I've been to watch Liverpool play in Turkey and against Turkish sides and there's been no trouble whatsoever.

And your knowledge of all things related to Italian Hooliganism is clearly shown with your line about 1985. Juve fans were pictured carrying guns inside the stadium; I assume that's normal in Italy? :rolleyes:

You've got no facts to back up anything you say and you sound desperate and embarrasing. I'm glad you've given up :)
 
Two victims were children. Whats worse - the Italian press has tried to blame it on 'hooligan liverpool supporters'

yea, hooligans with their kids



i found it interesting how when boro went to rome one of the people getting stabbed was a man who killed an infamous north east 'gangster' , yet the english press tried to make the brits look innocent throughout. oh but maybe he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.


admittedly the masked italians did throw bottles and things at families in the main square but i find it hard to believe that they where completely unprovoked
 
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Forget it, he's now trolling me in the CL/EL thread. Says it all.

As I said in my first post, we do have problems. We're just not guilty every single time something happens.
 
Forget it, he's now trolling me in the CL/EL thread. Says it all.

As I said in my first post, we do have problems. We're just not guilty every single time something happens.

Trolling you? :D

I've not said you're guilty everytime something happens. I said there's a big problem in Italy and Uefa have consistently failed to act.

If you disagree and have got anything to back it up then good and well. If not then I'd stop making stupid accusations.
 
admittedly the masked italians did throw bottles and things at families in the main square but i find it hard to believe that they where completely unprovoked

If it was an isolated incident then fair enough but it's not. Roma in particular are notorious for their 'Ultras' and cause trouble time and time again.

I'm sure there are idiots over here that go out there just for the trouble but it's not on anything like the scale that it is in Italy.
 
What the hell are you on about Baz, Italian clubs have absolutely no problems with the extreme right wing running riot, none whatsover.
 
Trolling you? :D

I've not said you're guilty everytime something happens. I said there's a big problem in Italy and Uefa have consistently failed to act.

If you disagree and have got anything to back it up then good and well. If not then I'd stop making stupid accusations.

Uefa need to grow a pair of balls and sort this out / ban the Italians over these problems.
 
Didn't they stop a game in Italy last week because the racial abuse Eto'o was receiving was getting crazy? They really, really need to clamp down on that in Italy, there's absolutely no room for players getting racially abused, it's disgusting.
 
Nice to see you spewing un-educated crap about the incident.
Yes, lets just blame all of the english fans.
It has nothing to do with the Italian fans pelting the english with missiles for 20 mins previous, and then the Italian police charging the English INTO the barrier. But no, its all our fault.
 
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