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Psycho Sonny

Psycho Sonny

Psycho Sonny

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Right well decided to treat myself this Christmas to monitor audio bx6's a centre speaker and a yamaha RX-V677. The 3 speakers cost me £240 total (second hand bargain) and the receiver will be about £175 for a 3 month old one.

I have bought some recommend cheap but good quality speaker wire £45 for 100m. 79 strand pure copper.

Should I use banana plugs or not? If so can you recommend the best bang for buck plugs? I take it I will need 10 plugs I have amazon prime if it makes any difference but I'd rather get the best deal for the money if a specialist retailer has a good price.

Second question is how would you wire up the floor standers? Would you send the front signal to the low frequency input and then rear speaker to the high frequency input? Or would you just use 1 input on the floorstanders? I don't plan on upgrading to 5.1 in the future but I might go 3.1
 
personally i dont think the banana plugs make much difference other than convenience

for your second question.. not sure what you mean. front signal/ rear signal..

if you mean the output of the amp just send the right signal to the right speaker and left to the left and dont touch the front/rear outputs
 
The floorstanders have 2 different inputs one for high frequency and another for low.

So you can either bi amp them or bi wire them.

I have been informed bi wiring is pointless so I was going to bi amp them.

So they would be amped by the front output and then bi amped by the rear output. Does that make sense?
 
Dsteviedee said:
You can use the rear channels to Bi-amp the speakers, I believe.
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Does it matter which one you connect to either input.

I think I read somewhere that the front output should go into the low frequency input. Therefore rear output into high frequency input.

Just wondering what's the best way to hook them up.
 
i know you can bi amp and bi wire but i have never heard you can send the rear channel to front speaker

i may be wrong (and out of date here) and stand to be corrected but to me it doesnt make sense, youll have different sounds (designed to only come from the rear) coming out the front at the same time as the front signal
 
I would imagine that there would also be a setting on the receiver.
Try downloading the manual.
Looking at the back of a 677 it does say:Surround Back/Bi/amp
 
You can use the surround back outputs to bi-amp. As Dsteviedee says, there will an option in the settings to change between the backs in a 7.1 set up and using them for bi-amping.

Just don't use the surround outputs intended for 5.1 set ups, otherwise you would be sending two separate audio channels to the same speaker; which would likely result in an audio mess. :p

They'll be clearly marked.
 
If you are going to bi-amp or bi-wire, make sure you take the bridging brackets off of the speaker terminals first.

Use the black & red terminals of "FRONT L" on the amp to drive the low frequency on your left speaker.

Then use the black and red terminals of "BACK SURROUND / BI-AMP L" on the amp to drive the high frequency on your left speaker.

And then, do the same for your right speaker.

Even though you ar bi-amping the front left & right speakers, you can still have a 5.1 setup with your amp, if you want too.

You will also have to go into the amp's menu, to let it know that you are using the surround/back terminals to bi-amp, instead of using
them for surround sound duty's.

I would change the setting in the amp first, before wiring things up ;)

As for banana plugs, I think they are a must, not really for performance, just for easier connectivity.
 
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I would be very surprised if Bi Amping from this receiver made a blind bit of difference. Try it out by all means, but don't expect much of a difference.
 
Thanks for all the advice above. Can anyone recommend a place to buy 20 decent banana plugs from?

Jano said:
I would be very surprised if Bi Amping from this receiver made a blind bit of difference. Try it out by all means, but don't expect much of a difference.
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Of course the biggest change in any setup is to upgrade the speakers. But I would hope to see a tiny improvement in bi-amping otherwise what is the point in it? The AVR is not that old and it's not exactly a budget yamaha it's mid range. So I would hope it matches the speakers quite well it's why i chose it.

It retailed for around £560 iirc from a review I read and it's last years model only 3 months old. The speakers were also around £650 for the floor standers no idea how much the centre cost so let's say £750-£800 worth.

So over £1250 worth of gear for £400 :D . So I'm sure I'll be blown away by the quality for how much I've invested into the setup.
 
You aren't actually bi-amping though. I tried the same thing with my RX-V3900 and couldn't hear a thing different. Adding another dedicated stereo amp to drive the fronts however did make a difference.
 
On my amp the instructions are (7.1 amp with front high/zone two)

The FRONT L/R and SURR BACK OR FRONT
HIGH L/R terminal posts can be used with front speakers
and surround back speakers respectively, or biamped
to provide separate tweeter and woofer feeds for
a pair of front speakers that support bi-amping, providing
improved bass and treble performance.
• When bi-amping is used, the AV receiver is able to
drive up to a 5.1 speaker system in the main room.
• For bi-amping, the FRONT L/R terminal posts connect
to the front speakers’ woofer terminals; the
SURR BACK OR FRONT HIGH L/R terminal
posts connect to the front speakers’ tweeter terminals.
• Once you’ve completed the bi-amping connections
shown below and turned on the AV receiver, you must
set the “Speakers Type” setting to “Bi-AMP” to
enable bi-amping (➔ 40).
 
I have the same amp and speaker set up and I have them bi amped, honestly couldn't tell you if bi amping was an improvement or not, but it can't do any harm.

The Yamaha amps use discrete amps for each channel so it should be proper bi amping.

There's a setting on the amp to enable bi amping.
 
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