FAO Justin/Sorry, another iPhone question

Craig321

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Been reading through the iPhone thread and I'm very tempted to get one and jailbreak/unlock it.

I've heard a few people say you should restore the iPhone to 1.1.4 before you start, I'm guess restoring to 1.1.4 would be exactly the same as just using the iTunes update tool (as long as 1.1.5 hasn't been release at the time).

Also, does iTunes ever automatically update your iPhone? I don't want 1.1.5 to be released and re-lock my phone :p

Sorry about yet another iPhone thread :rolleyes:

One more thing... maybe you could link to the 1.1.4 firmware Justin just in case Apple release 1.1.5 in the future (and for restoration purposes? I've seen someone restoring in iTunes and it asks for a file to restore from?) - I doubt people will leave 1.1.5 uncracked... but just in case :)

I've FAOed this to Justin in case there are any updates you can make to the sticky from this thread :)

Craig.
 
Also, does iTunes ever automatically update your iPhone? I don't want 1.1.5 to be released and re-lock my phone
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I assume you can turn automatic updates off, within iTunes, like you can do with every iPod.
 
Craig321 said:
Been reading through the iPhone thread and I'm very tempted to get one and jailbreak/unlock it.

I've heard a few people say you should restore the iPhone to 1.1.4 before you start, I'm guess restoring to 1.1.4 would be exactly the same as just using the iTunes update tool (as long as 1.1.5 hasn't been release at the time).

Also, does iTunes ever automatically update your iPhone? I don't want 1.1.5 to be released and re-lock my phone :p

Sorry about yet another iPhone thread :rolleyes:

One more thing... maybe you could link to the 1.1.4 firmware Justin just in case Apple release 1.1.5 in the future (and for restoration purposes? I've seen someone restoring in iTunes and it asks for a file to restore from?) - I doubt people will leave 1.1.5 uncracked... but just in case :)

I've FAOed this to Justin in case there are any updates you can make to the sticky from this thread :)

Craig.
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Hey there, 1.1.5 isn't released yet, but when it is, I shall add a linky to 1.1.4.

You only need to restore the iPhone if you have already used it, think of it as a format, like you would do to a HDD. When you buy your iPhone new, it wont have anything on it, so just update :)

iTunes wont automatically update, it will ask you if you want to update, you can click 'download an install', 'download only' or 'remind me later'. (Or similar)

Don't worry, you will know if 1.1.5 is near release, insiders will usually find out first so you will be aware of anything coming.
 
Justin said:
Hey there, 1.1.5 isn't released yet, but when it is, I shall add a linky to 1.1.4.

You only need to restore the iPhone if you have already used it, think of it as a format, like you would do to a HDD. When you buy your iPhone new, it wont have anything on it, so just update :)

iTunes wont automatically update, it will ask you if you want to update, you can click 'download an install', 'download only' or 'remind me later'. (Or similar)

Don't worry, you will know if 1.1.5 is near release, insiders will usually find out first so you will be aware of anything coming.
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Cool, thank very much m8 :)

Are there any tools about that could maybe backup my firmware after I have used ZiPhone and Boot Neuter? It'd save a bit of hassle in case I ever did do something stupid :)
 
iTunes automatically backs up your iPhone each time it's connected :)

When you press restore, you will have a choice to overwrite with new firmware, or restore back to a previous state.
 
Justin said:
iTunes automatically backs up your iPhone each time it's connected :)

When you press restore, you will have a choice to overwrite with new firmware, or restore back to a previous state.
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Ah very nice, thanks again :D

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Hmm, I just read the 1.1.4 update is ~165MB which will take ages to download on my 512k internet. Are there any official places I can download it before buying my iPhone so I don't have to wait on the day? Would it be possible to run a proper update and select my downloaded 1.1.4?
 
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Craig321 said:
Ah very nice, thanks again :D

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Hmm, I just read the 1.1.4 update is ~165MB which will take ages to download on my 512k internet. Are there any official places I can download it before buying my iPhone so I don't have to wait on the day? Would it be possible to run a proper update and select my downloaded 1.1.4?
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Hold down cmd (or Alt) and click restore in iTunes.

Then, a prompt will appear that will allow you to select which firmware to restore to. Select 1.1.4 and iTunes will do the rest.

You'll need to put the iPhone in to recovery mode first, otherwise you cannot bypass the "activation" page in order to update it.

It sounds complex, but when you get the iPhone you'll understand.. basically you connect the iPhone, hold down the power button + home, until the screen goes black, leave go of the power button and let iTunes detect the phone (keep holding home until a message appears).

This will allow you to update / restore the iPhone without activating, and is the basis for unlocking. You may be lucky and get a phone with 1.1.4 pre-loaded, in which case you can just run ZiPhone out of the box :)

All the links on the internet basically link to Apple's download servers.

Oh, and initially iTunes will ask you if you want to update the phone to the latest firmware. If you say no, you have the option to tick a box that says "do not remind me again!"
 
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Mate if your buying a new phone and want to unlock it I would definetly update the firmware to 1.1.4 as I bought a phone last thursday and tried using Pwnage (only works on 1.1.4) and it would not work. So restored to 1.1.4 and had no problems. Basically this is what you need to do to restore: Keep the O2 sim in the phone. Plug in your dock. While holding down the home button plug in your phone to the dock. Hold the home button until the itunes icon and cable connector show on screen. Itunes will say your phone needs restoring, now if you havn't got the firmware on ** pc already get Itunes to download it. If you want a copy on your pc of the 1.1.4 firmware then go to Macrumours -> Forum -> Iphone Hacs and Apps -> then the Pwnage sticky in that thread. There is a link there to download the iphone firmware make sure its the IPHONE one not the ipod one. When updating if you already have the firmware downloaded then in itunes press alt while clicking restore and a window will come up for you to navigate to the firmware file.

Itune always asks if you want to update the firmware just say no.
 
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How will I know what firmware the phone is on when I get it? Can the info page be accessed without activation?

So I'll definitely have to restore if I download the 1.1.4 firmware beforehand? There's no update with file option?

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Nice tutorial on the MacRumours site, thanks Matrix.
 
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Yeah, iTunes will say which firmware is loaded, but you'd have to do the power+home thing (this is called recovery mode) in order to see that information.

Restoring is usually recommended, that way everything is overwritten and there's no chance that it messes anything up because it's all Apple-approved firmware anyway.
 
My phone had the 1.1.2 firmware out of the box yet iTunes said it was up to date (the update button was inactive) and the only way I could force 1.1.4 on it was to click the restore button.
 
That's strange :confused:

I'll probably be using the restore function anyway to upgrade my firmware as I'm only on 512k here so will be downloading 1.1.4 manually before I get the phone :)
 
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