Farage has bank accounts closed

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The "right to have a bank account" wasn't something I knew about, so did a quick google and hit on this: https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/basic-bank-accounts

From posts here and elsewhere, it seems like the bank in question was Coutts (who are owned by NatWest), but the account in question was a Business account and not a basic account as described in the link above. It also appears that he was offered an alternative account under the same group, which I'd assume would a standard NatWest consumer account as covered under the link above.

We're at over 400 posts arguing - but is anything wrong in what I wrote above ?

Assuming I'm not talking spherical dangly bits, then the whole thing does seem to be blown up out of all proportion. His "basic human right" isn't being taken away at all. Coutts / NatWest are free to take a commercial decision not to operate a business account for him for any reason they like. Maybe he's just not a profitable customer. Comparison with totalitarian states and the "if the establishment can do it to him, they can do it to us" is just all hysterical nonsense. Equally (in the absence of a stated reason) comments about "he taking dodgy money" are also speculative and seem to be largely driven just by regs that banks MUST follow around KYC and sources of funds - some 2 + 2 = 5 logic.

I'll just repeat my comment from a lot earlier. It was tongue in cheek but turns out to have been fairly accurate:

Indeed. It is a total non story which Farage has used to manipulate his gullible followers into throffing over once again. He only has to mention that he thinks the "establishment" is out to get him, and they all hear the call to arms.
 
Getting back to Farage.
We know that previously A Banks, bankrolled him.

Banks who himself was being investigated due to offshoring.

IMO its more than likely farage has had a payment into a business account thats dubious and has either refused to say what it is for, or refused to have it reversed if its dodgy.

I mean, what about this, Putin sends him some cash for a LOL!
Nigel comrade you have failed me in your attempts to fully undermine the UK, you only part succeeded, so I am sending you a small payment that I know you will appreciate, Love and hugs Putin.
 
The slow walking that Just Stop Oil are doing.
Its a very minor impact very limited protest, and yet being dealt with harshly. Hence our actions in the UK are significantly worse in proportion.

No I don't agree at all.
Firstly, every business should be able to choose who it does business with just like we can as consumers.
Secondly, in this case specifically, there is no evidence that they have shut down without reason. Its projection that they have no reason.
There are lots of examples of banks accounts being shut down without reason around the Internet. You're just choosing not to look.

As for the slow walk. JSO get away with it because they are the right kind of activist group. If they were a right wing group they would be treated roughly and arrested. This uneven treatment as been on display many times.

Your general position seems to be that you don't care about the treatment of others who have a different position than you. I find that to be a dark mind set of the past.
 
Come on man! “Without reason”, can you show me an example?
If someone makes a claim before I respond I do a Google search around to make sure I don't make a fool of myself. Why don't you do a little googling?

There are lots of examples of accounts being closed down, many for none political reasons. It's how banks operate. That is the current law. They don't need to give a reason.

I've done a second of searching for you.


Banks and financial institutions can close your bank account for several reasons without warning or notice.
 
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It's on very shaky ground and member states are more and more embracing the Right. Victor Orban just vetoed sending even more money to The Ukraine, that'll put the cat amongst the pigeons....

Anarchy reigns in France, and is potentially spreading to Brussels itself, the plastic natives are restless again. All is good, nothing to see here.. ;)

We're also having our anarchy.. but being terribly British about it.

I'm just waiting for the ducking stools for the witch hunts that we're supposedly having. So far I'm rather disappointed.
 
There are lots of examples of banks accounts being shut down without reason around the Internet. You're just choosing not to look.

As for the slow walk. JSO get away with it because they are the right kind of activist group. If they were a right wing group they would be treated roughly and arrested. This uneven treatment as been on display many times.

Your general position seems to be that you don't care about the treatment of others who have a different position than you. I find that to be a dark mind set of the past.

No offence here but we always go through this sort of loop don't we. You make perpetually bad takes on situations and eventually repent when you actually become more educated in an area. So I am not really sure why I am bothering, but :

Banks do not have a obligation to offer you an account nor maintain it. They are a business and as such can choose who they deal with, as long as they do so legally.
There are guidelines for how much notice to give in regards closure and when instant closure is acceptable.

I am not going to start googling "people who have bank accounts force closed" since you just know, or you should, how imbalanced an approach to research is.
The equivalent to going "how many people die from vaccinations" and expecting to get a balanced first page of results.

I am very much against the socialist type approach of everyone is equal. Its funny since I would align with most of those who are complaining about this decision on principle. But for some reason in this case (we really know its because its Farage and many have tied themselves to his mast but will claim something else,) they argue the opposite.
The individual should have a right to demand an account!? I am not sure how that ever works in a free market democracy.

Now the one area I know has been problematic (and this is NOT caused by the banks but by government legislation) is in regards some other countries.
The banks are required to ensure that funds are not used for eg terrorism. Sounds easy when the person you are dealing with is mainly a UK based person dealing with the UK.
What about when the person is of African heritage and sending money abroad to accounts that the bank cannot know what they are, or who they belong to.
Its frankly typical of the bad legislation we pass, yes lets blame the EU that is convenient, but all nations face the same issues.
I am sure we could insert a little casual racism at this point and say if we hadn't let them in in the first place we would be fine.

Frankly its laughable you say that right wing protestors suffer different treatment to JSO. For starters JSO are not left wing, they contain and are supported by people who are also right wing.
The oddity about JSO is that it tends to be young (who see their future) and old (who see their grandkids future) who are mainly active. A lot of those older people who would historically be conservative voters.

I even sent a message to Rishi, saying he should be dropping the boats pledge and be switching in the one that may actually give us a hope in the forthcoming election, the climate.
For all his uselessness the one thing I agreed with Boris on was the climate.

I am not sure if you are really paying attention, but it was widely publicised that people were being arrested and detained for appearing to be JSO activists. To reinforce that, appearing to be, not actively doing anything.
There have been reporters (going to document protests) and even someone who was a massive royalist chucked in a cell for the day as the police thought they were JSO.
Our rights are being hammered in this area, moving us closer to the sorts of thing that Canada did (which I also disagree with FWIW).

I do care about the rights of others. I believe in the rule of law, that that law should be equally applied to all, and that the law should only ever go as far as it needs to to maintain society.
I do not back eroding rights people have fought hard for, I do not back breaking hard fought for international agreements (such as Asylum).
So I do very much care about others. My position politically is centre right, but fairly libertarian.
 
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If someone makes a claim before I respond I do a Google search around to make sure I don't make a fool of myself. Why don't you do a little googling?

There are lots of examples of accounts being closed down, many for none political reasons. It's how banks operate. That is the current law. They don't need to give a reason.

I've done a second of searching for you.


Ahem, that's not an example of it happening is it, it's just it could happen.
 
There are lots of examples of banks accounts being shut down without reason around the Internet. You're just choosing not to look.

As for the slow walk. JSO get away with it because they are the right kind of activist group. If they were a right wing group they would be treated roughly and arrested. This uneven treatment as been on display many times.

Your general position seems to be that you don't care about the treatment of others who have a different position than you. I find that to be a dark mind set of the past.

Farage literally convinced the public to reduce our freedom to live and work. You care so much about people not being to use a bank account but don't care about freedom generally? Weird. You don't care about treatment of others either.
 
It's cachet and perceived snobbery sadly evaporated under its new ownership.

I'm trying to understand if that's suggesting that the drop in standards allows Farage to continue banking with them, or that Farage would never been allowed to start banking with them in the old days because he's such a cad and a bounder, a commoner that is not part of the Eton clique.
 
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