Father beats man to death for molesting child; probably won't be arrested

estebanrey said:
"I say old boy, you wouldn't mind refraining from nobbing my prepubescent daughter for a minute and hand yourself into the nearest police station would you chap?"
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What? I'd let the justice system do what it needs to do. That's rather different than taking someone's life.
 
estebanrey said:
I wonder how elmarko would react if he found a paedo trying to have sex with one of his children. I somewhat suspect the 'He's a victim too' mentality would get shelved pretty quickly.
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What point exactly are you trying to argue against?

I don't think he's a "victim" - I think he's defective.

If you would like to point out where I said that the reaction of the father wasn't understandable.

I was talking about the actions of the individual - the father is just as bound by the same system as the perpetrator.

This is why people directly involved shouldn't have anything to do with the punishment or sentencing - as they are too close to the situation.

I would react violently in that situation, what exactly is your point? - do you think that because when not directly involved & thinking rationally I can comprehend that people are a product of environment means I would be passive if my child was raped?.

What a daft insinuation that would be.

estebanrey said:
"I say old boy, you wouldn't mind refraining from nobbing my prepubescent daughter for a minute and hand yourself into the nearest police station would you chap?"
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Stupid comment, I'm glad you find child rape amusing.
 
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estebanrey said:
I wonder how elmarko would react if he found a paedo trying to have sex with one of his children. I somewhat suspect the 'He's a victim too' mentality would get shelved pretty quickly.
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Yawn, of course most people would overreact in situations involving harm on their family, doesn't mean they think it's right.

I'm more disturbed by the sick things people think up when they read stories like this, how they would torture and inflict pain on people because they are bad and then kill them or castrate them, what normal person thinks like that?
 
estebanrey said:
So you'd no make no attempt to get the guy off your child, you'd just ring the police and let the abuse continue until they arrive?
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I'd arrest him of course. I don't see what point you are trying to make. Arresting him using reasonable force is different to killing someone or dishing out some harsh vigilante justice.
 
estebanrey said:
So you'd no make no attempt to get the guy off your child, you'd just ring the police and let the abuse continue until they arrive?
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Did you take a fall & knock the old noggin recently?.

It's pretty obvious he meant after the child was out of danger.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I'd arrest him of course. I don't see what point you are trying to make. Arresting him using reasonable force is different to killing someone or dishing out some harsh vigilante justice.
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But we don't know that's what has happened here.

Reasonable Force is not limited to giving them a bear hug and trying to restrain them like a pair of human handcuffs. Subduing them (i.e knocking them out) would be deemed reasonable if the attacker was bigger than you (thus likely to out wrestle you).
 
Telescopi said:
Would CPS go for murder or manslaughter though?
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I'd have thought diminished responsibility would have made it manslaughter (assuming it happened exactly as he said).

My personal point was about the short-sighted comments "evil" & the causal effects which lead to people becoming abusers - NOT that that I think the father should be charged with murder (at most manslaughter due to diminished responsibility) - assuming he didn't keep hitting him after he was unconscious.
 
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estebanrey said:
So you'd no make no attempt to get the guy off your child, you'd just ring the police and let the abuse continue until they arrive?
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I'd assume that a mexican being caught by a texan farmer isn't going to carry on in front of him.... likely just needs to be restrained.

Having said that I'd think most people (myself included) would likely see red mist and just go to town on the abuser as I'd guess likely happened in this case... I'd say in the uk the police might well have taken him in and looked at possible manslaughter charges as per the guy who killed a burglar a few months ago...
 
estebanrey said:
"I say old boy, you wouldn't mind refraining from nobbing my prepubescent daughter for a minute and hand yourself into the nearest police station would you chap?"
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Replace old boy with oik and you've basically got a stock borris johnson reaction right there.
 
shoes said:
Well you find it excusable... what's your point?
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So, attempting to understand the cause of a behaviour means the person finds it excusable?

Do you even know what excusable means? - forgivable, understandable, justifiable, permissible, minor, slight, allowable, defensible, venial, pardonable, warrantable? - how exactly do I find it excusable?.

I'm talking about the underline cause of the behaviour.

You can cry "KILL THE EVIL PEADOS" all day, but how exactly do you propose we reduce the chance of new paedophiles being created?.

People like you (the knee jerk idiots of the country) are too busy screaming about revenge/justice to see what really matters - which is reducing the amount of children who get raped.
 
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UncleRuckus said:
He certainly does have empathy for the nonces and far less for the victims. I wonder what that says about him?
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When did I say I didn't have empathy for the victims?, all you care about is vengeance, I care about stopping it happening again.

I said I had empathy which stopped me from hurting others, regarding the criminals I said I want to understand why they do it - to stop it occurring again - learn to read before posting again.
 
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