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Faulty GPU? It has to be?

anderson2005

anderson2005

anderson2005

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Hello all, so i posted some month or so back regarding my graphics card (290x) not letting system boot with it inside. I was told it was not faulty , and it was returned. (I had it 8months at that time give or take) and i was advised to replace PSU, after changing the PSU to a 750watt (higher than previous PSU too ) after just a few months, the exact same symptom is occuring.

The computer will not boot at all with the GPU plugged in. Without the GPU, it boots fine. I was told last time that even though voltages may be "normal" the PSU may not be producing the capacity required to operate the system. How can two PSUs be faulty and especially this brand new one after just a month? Could it be the graphics card CAUSING the PSU's to break slowly? could it be something else entirely?

I get no BSODs or other odd behavior. I did leave the computer on over night, and so i wasnt here to see what ti did but the last time it went, it just literally died mid-flow gaming. no errors, no bsods or anyhthing just died and refuse to boot.

There's one slight difference this time....the fans move for less than a second when i press thepower button now, but no noises...nothing. Any advice would be appreciated....could it be something else like fault ram or something?
 
PSU: Corrsair CX750 (1-2months old)
CPU: i3 3220 @3.30ghz
Ram: 8GB (I think DDR3)

In terms of connected hardware:

1 x 500GB sata disk (pretty old)
1 x 1TB sata disk (pretty old)
1 x 3TB saga disk (within last year or two tops)

Various USB devices such as:

Keyboard, Mouse, Game Controller, web cam and a USB hub in the middle of some of those.

Graphics card is the ATI Radeon R9 290x which apparently requires 300Ws. Is it possible the GPU is pulling more watts than what it should and is causing the PSU to "overload" and slowly breakdown? I can't think of anything else... :S
 
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That PSU is fine, it will be fine with the 290X. What motherboard do you have? Some older boards suffer similar issues you're having and a BIOS update should fix it if avaliable.
 
Orcvader said:
That PSU is fine, it will be fine with the 290X. What motherboard do you have? Some older boards suffer similar issues you're having and a BIOS update should fix it if avaliable.
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Thanks for helping by the way. I'm not at home so I will get the version of motherboard I have later.its an old one though and also I can point out that both times this has happened the computer was running fine for months then just suddenly dies and this is end result. Fails to boot with four in.
 
Orcvader said:
That PSU is fine, it will be fine with the 290X. What motherboard do you have? Some older boards suffer similar issues you're having and a BIOS update should fix it if avaliable.
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This is my motherboard, p8h61-mx r2.0

I also have further news , I replaced the power supply with a brand new one (got the old exchanged). the computer still does not boot with this graphics card in whilst it boots fine without the graphics card. :(
 
Update the bios by downloading the latest and extract it to a usb stick. Reboot and go into the bios and use the EZ-Flash tool for flashing the bios. Do not use any windows based software to flash the bios.
 
anderson2005 said:
Hello all, so i posted some month or so back regarding my graphics card (290x) not letting system boot with it inside. I was told it was not faulty , and it was returned. (I had it 8months at that time give or take) and i was advised to replace PSU, after changing the PSU to a 750watt (higher than previous PSU too ) after just a few months, the exact same symptom is occuring.

The computer will not boot at all with the GPU plugged in. Without the GPU, it boots fine. I was told last time that even though voltages may be "normal" the PSU may not be producing the capacity required to operate the system. How can two PSUs be faulty and especially this brand new one after just a month? Could it be the graphics card CAUSING the PSU's to break slowly? could it be something else entirely?

I get no BSODs or other odd behavior. I did leave the computer on over night, and so i wasnt here to see what ti did but the last time it went, it just literally died mid-flow gaming. no errors, no bsods or anyhthing just died and refuse to boot.

There's one slight difference this time....the fans move for less than a second when i press thepower button now, but no noises...nothing. Any advice would be appreciated....could it be something else like fault ram or something?
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Doesn't sound like a BIOS issue if it was working for a few months. It could however be your mobo that is starting to fail (probably PCI-E solder joints giving up).
 
Toss3 said:
Doesn't sound like a BIOS issue if it was working for a few months. It could however be your mobo that is starting to fail (probably PCI-E solder joints giving up).
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I suspected it could be motherboard PCI-E slot but , what i dont understand is if that is what it is. surely it would have the same issues with other graphics cards also? I have an older card, 260x and an even older one, and both work 100% in the motherboard. no crashes or boot failures. but switching back to the 290x it will not boot.

Also i agree that I dont think it is the bios because it worked for 10months or so with this same motherboard, some bios e.t.c its after 10months that the computer just randomly died mid-flow gaming and then would refuse to boot. I was send the card back and told it was fine... i replaced PSU and it worked for a further 2 months, now again it died over night (i wasnt at the computer) but its the same exact symptoms. failing to boot with that specific card...but works fine with all other cards ive tried and I to prevent them saying the card is fine and it being the PSU i changed the PSU firstly and still failing to boot. I'm wondering if the card caused the old PSU to fail, and now causing the system to not boot at all. Is that a possibility?
 
Okay so .. after a lengthy process....the online retailer 'ebutter' who had sent the graphics card to ASUS (apparently they requested it) has confirmed they cannot fix the card and so ebutter has refunded me. The odd thing is...they refunded the full cost of the card. I assumed I would only get a partial refund as it is 8-10months old. Im not complaining but could this be that they detected a manufacturer fault and soo they sold me a product that was already destined to break sooner or later? It's the only logical reason i see they will fully refund me... :S

Anyway Im just glad its done. Now I have to decide what card to get next..it will not be the 290x thats for sure....lol.

I'm debating on the GTX 980 or the AMD 390x (coz it has 8GB memory)
 
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