Fed up with it!

GuruJockStrap · 10 May 2006 at 17:04

I've only been following E3 since last year and my moan applies then as it does this year.

Why all the pre-rendered and CGI footage?

I can understand why game publishers/console companies do it but as a gamer, I just want to see what the game looks like when I actually play it.

Do they have such little confidence in their products that they have to churn out hours of pre-rendered footage in order to make it look good?

I just hate seeing awsome footage only to finally get the game and discover it looks nothing like it.

Sorry, needed a moan.

suarve · 10 May 2006 at 17:09

totally agree dude

Keylow · 10 May 2006 at 17:11

Where? It's been mainly in game stuff this year, from Ms and Ninty anyway.

JUMPURS · 10 May 2006 at 17:19

yeap the only mob who really could show in game stuff was Ninty, MS and Sony didnt really, maybe some of the FMV sequences, but even then wont play like that so who cares.

GuruJockStrap · 10 May 2006 at 17:19

Let me explain:

1. CGI. We all know what this is. Not using the in game engine and apart from cut scenes in the game, you won't be seeing these visual when you play.

2. Pre-rendered. This is a scene using the in game engine to render it. Its not gameplay footage in that it hasn't been recorded with somebody actually playing it as you would when you play the retail copy. The scene is completely scripted and controlled by the people who made the demo. The can have total control of camera angles, lighting, objects on screen etc. Places less demands on the hardware.

JUMPURS · 10 May 2006 at 17:22

GuruJockStrap said:
2. Pre-rendered. This is a scene using the in game engine to render it. Its not gameplay footage in that it hasn't been recorded with somebody actually playing it as you would when you play the retail copy. The scene is completely scripted and controlled by the people who made the demo. The can have total control of camera angles, lighting, objects on screen etc. Places less demands on the hardware.

There was a lot more of this than CGI this year (least from sonys POV. but for some reason people are letting MS away with Pre Rendered and not Sony.

GuruJockStrap · 10 May 2006 at 17:24

I was thinking that too.

Seems to be the "in thing" to put major spin on your products.

JUMPURS · 10 May 2006 at 17:27

yeah Halo 3 - Not in game who cares, i aint seen the GoW yet so cant really comment, dunno how much gameplay is involved.
FFXIII not in game who cares.
yet people get all defensive 'but its in game' 'but it aint really'
the only games that can really get away with it almost is MGS as the MGS games have so many cut scenes in it anyway lol

was there any word on killzone 2 at this E3???

GuruJockStrap · 10 May 2006 at 17:30

GOW was completely in game footage. Absolutely amazing stuff.

I'm not convinced with MGS. Until I see gameplay footage (AI, Enemies etc) then the jury is still out on that one.

JUMPURS · 10 May 2006 at 17:33

GuruJockStrap said:
GOW was completely in game footage. Absolutely amazing stuff.

I'm not convinced with MGS. Until I see gameplay footage (AI, Enemies etc) then the jury is still out on that one.

I'll need to DL that, my only concern about GoW is its 3rd person lol

BUT ITS MGS!!!!!!! u knows its gonna rock, well 2 sucked but as long as u play as snake it will rock lol

bingham67 · 10 May 2006 at 17:34

No word of Killzone or Motorstorm but the event lasts until friday (It was open to the public at 5pm today uk time) suprised they didnt show in the conference.

Phil99 · 10 May 2006 at 17:36

edit: didn't notice it'd already been mentioned

Wyrdo · 10 May 2006 at 17:38

JUMPURS said:
I'll need to DL that, my only concern about GoW is its 3rd person lol

BUT ITS MGS!!!!!!! u knows its gonna rock, well 2 sucked but as long as u play as snake it will rock lol

I've never played a MGS game

ps2wizz · 10 May 2006 at 17:39

GuruJockStrap said:
I've only been following E3 since last year and my moan applies then as it does this year.

Why all the pre-rendered and CGI footage?

I can understand why game publishers/console companies do it but as a gamer, I just want to see what the game looks like when I actually play it.

Do they have such little confidence in their products that they have to churn out hours of pre-rendered footage in order to make it look good?

I just hate seeing awsome footage only to finally get the game and discover it looks nothing like it.

Sorry, needed a moan.

yeah well i think u can moan for a few more days yet lol

JUMPURS · 10 May 2006 at 17:39

wyrdo said:
I've never played a MGS game

Shame on u, no wonder u have that face

Wyrdo · 10 May 2006 at 17:40

JUMPURS said:
There was a lot more of this than CGI this year (least from sonys POV. but for some reason people are letting MS away with Pre Rendered and not Sony.

I didn't watch the whole MS presentation as I almost fell asleep at my desk but just about everything I saw was in game.

Halo 3 of course is not in game (Yes it's done using the engine but it's just scripted) but I can't think of any others shown that weren't.

I've yet to watch the Sony or Nintendeo presentations so I can't comment on those at all.

Wyrdo · 10 May 2006 at 17:41

JUMPURS said:
Shame on u, no wonder u have that face

Worth picking them up cheap you reckon? Not sure I'd have much chance to play them but I'd have a go.

/back on topic

Dom- · 10 May 2006 at 17:44

wyrdo said:
Worth picking them up cheap you reckon? Not sure I'd have much chance to play them but I'd have a go.

/back on topic

Definitely
MGS:Twin Snakes for the Gamecube(or the original for PS1-depends on how cheap you mean)
MGS2:Substance(includes VR missions+other stuff) you should be able to pick up cheap then MGS3(Subsistence((new camera angle and lots of extras including online play)) is coming out soon)

IceBus · 10 May 2006 at 17:45

I assume Band Of Brothers and COD3 were both CGI?

GTCole · 10 May 2006 at 17:45

wyrdo said:
Worth picking them up cheap you reckon? Not sure I'd have much chance to play them but I'd have a go.

/back on topic

I would suggest trying out MGS 2 but stear clear of 3