Feeling scammed (Prescriptions)

for the record and just to be clear, that wasnt a complaint!. I dont mind having a set charge which may sometimes cost more, because for the vast majority of cases we gain far more than we lose.
 
for the record and just to be clear, that wasnt a complaint!. I dont mind having a set charge which may sometimes cost more, because for the vast majority of cases we gain far more than we lose.
aye :)

I think a lot of people don't realise there is more than just the basic cost of a medication in the prescription charge.

I know a lot of people are shocked how much their pet's medication costs ;) (full retail/list price).
 
yeah which is precisly why i think we should get a bill of the real amound

so for instancy Asthma meds...... cost £30, prescription charge £10.20, NHS subsidy £19.80 (numbers may not be 100% accurate)

that way tho when those people who just assume NHS is too expensive and our charges are ripping us off, maybe when they see the numbers they may change their view.

I know this wont be popular however.............Our GP has a ticker tape up each month with amount of missed appointments. Its a big number esp when also you add in that it is almost impossible to get an appointment really quickly where i live.

i would like to see a system where a GP appointment costs £X amount but this is refunded after you make your appointment.

Any appontments cancelled or rescheduled would lead to a refund or the money held till the next appointment but if a genuine no show then that money is lost.
 
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For clarification, the line refers to the 'Won't works', scrotes that plague towns/cities usually smashed of their faces & those that think the world owes them a living.

Those that cannot work, through disability, kids & elderly (who have paid into the system throughout their lifes) I have no issue.
Do you think you're well placed to make judgments on can't & wont then? I assume based on nothing more than looking at people.
 
fully taxpayer funded != free.
Obviously i do not agree with the OP.... however i must admit, and maybe this is me being a bit wrongly triggered to to listening to daily mail types so maybe i am wrong.

but i do get a little jealous of our Scottish neighbours who still get to have free university and free prescriptions. I also know from a friends experience that the levels of support for mental issues are far superior in Scotland than they are in England........................

I do wonder where that money comes from to pay for all that.. IF it is scottish money paying for their services that is fine, however if English/Welsh/NI tax money is also helping support that it does seem a little unfair to me.... really it should be the same services for all in the uk regardless of your postcode.


Does anyone remember when Scottish MPs voted AGAINST removing top up fees from English/welsh universities despite them not having to pay them north of the border? it is that kind of hypocrisy which makes me wonder if we are paying for stuff we cant get oursleves.... but maybe i am tinfoil hatting.
 
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Obviously i do not agree with the OP.... however i must admit, and maybe this is me being a bit wrongly triggered to to listening to daily mail types so maybe i am wrong.

but i do get a little jealous of our Scottish neighbours who still get to have free university and free prescriptions. I also know from a friends experience that the levels of support for mental issues are far superior in Scotland than they are in England........................

I do wonder where that money comes from to pay for all that.. IF it is scottish money paying for their services that is fine, however if English/Welsh/NI tax money is also helping support that it does seem a little unfair to me.... really it should be the same services for all in the uk regardless of your postcode.


Does anyone remember when Scottish MPs voted AGAINST removing top up fees from English/welsh universities despite them not having to pay them north of the border? it is that kind of hypocrisy which makes me wonder if we are paying for stuff we cant get oursleves.... but maybe i am tinfoil hatting.
University places are rationed in Scotland for Scottish people - so even with the grades you might not necessarily get a place.
90% of prescriptions are free in England as well.

A lot of the headlines look good but when you dive into them in a bit more detail it's not as good as it looks.

Tax can be a lot higher in Scotland as well, it looks like a low pay country as the government say more people pay less tax in Scotland which means that most people earn less. The real win of the higher taxes up here would be to say most people pay more tax as it would show a country that has more better paid jobs than lower paid ones.

Drug deaths are one - funding was slashed and despite having the same laws as rUK the numbers are far worse.
It's also next to impossible to get a NHS dentist in large parts of the country
The NHS is also on it's knees, hospitals can't function without nurses and a lot of the long serving ones have had enough and left, the rest of the long serving ones want to leave.
 
So why are they 10x as expensive in the US, with fewer safety nets?



Where are you pulling these numbers from? There's only 1.5m working age people out of employment and most of those are transient.

There's also less than a million vacancies in the UK, the jobs literally don't exist you melt.

10x as expensive, what is? No its not.

Uk and USA, basically are the same, you are making comments like the USA is a capitalist utopia, no.

Numbers explained below.

Jobs are created and lost per economic circumstance, doing something like ending social programs would mean a boom, and more job creation
Are there 5 million out of work in the UK?

And how many of them are actually capable of work and not already doing something else...

IIRC for example by DWP standards you are only officially a carer if you are putting 40 hours a week into looking after someone and DWP do not count being ready to respond over night in those hours unless you are actively needed all night (and thus happily ruling out anyone who needs to be on site and ready to go but "only" needed 2 or 3 times*).
IIRC there are 1.5 million people in the UK out of work completely, to put things in perspective there are 5 million unpaid carers (and only 1.4 million people in the UK claim carers) and most of the unpaid adult carers are classed as "unemployed" despite the fact they might be "working" 60 hours a week or more caring for someone, just unable to actually get paid anything other than JSA for it.

I know when my mother was ill she required 3 people to barely manage to care for her but under DWP rules only 1 of those could have potentially claimed despite the fact that she needed people up and around 24/7 and we were very lucky we could do that.



*Try doing things like changing bedding and spending 30 minute at a time caring for someone multiple times a night and saying that's not going to affect your ability to work, or not the same as being on call for the full 8 hours, but apparently it only counts for DWP if you are actively needed all night.

So from age of 16-64, @ 25% unemployment leaves around 10.5million people.

From there i have halved it to account for students, people who retire early, and so forth.

Either way, the exact numbers are not really important, whatever it is, or however you calculate it, the lower the better, simple as that.

Why people now say, a normal person on a normal salary has no chance to buy a house etc, this is the explanation.

As more people are working, and if the system is capitalist, thus useless jobs are discarded quickly, thus people are doing useful jobs.

More things are produced and thus prices are lower, while at the same time taxes are lower.

So, if we reduce socialist policies, we can cut taxes, and the prices of goods/services would decrease.

Its not quantum physics.
 
I rather they RAISE taxes and increase social policies...and I am not in in the 40% tax threshold.

People in the states go bankrupt from their illness, they have to think twice before calling an ambulance, that is if that ambulance takes you to a hospital that covers by your health insurance with a surgeon that operates on you that is covered by your health insurance. If you are passed out in the accident, it can be a total lottery if you are covered because of the hospital or person that treats you.
 
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I really do not want the US system.... however OTOH the NHS is currently barely fit for purpose either. Something needs to happen.

Wes Streeting has taken £100ks off of US private healthcare companies so i am not sure he is to be trusted either if your goal is improving the NHS and keeping it out of private hands.

i doubt those heath care companies are donating the money out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
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*** Hope this doesn't constitute a medical thread, not going to be discussing medical issues, just how backwards society seems ***


Is it wrong to feel agreived and even scammed regarding prescriptions.

Just been to the docs for abdominal pains, prescribed 2 lot of antibiotics (due to allergies) & paid the princely sum of £20 because I work.

Yet if I were a dole squatting, oxygen theiving, resource drain on society, they'd have been free.

Surely that's backwards? I pay thousands a year in taxes to pay for healthcare services already, shouldn't I be the one recieving "free" medication having techinically already paid for it?

Three asterisks Jeremy? THREE?

(also, you're a LOL human being ok thanks bye)
 
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