FIA tweak the DRS

[arknor]

they should allow full drs use for one whole sector of the track.... or make it like kers and ler them use it for upto 20 seconds each lap but let the drivers choose where

First driver to go through Eau Rouge with it open wins the Steel Balls trophy!

bet villenuve would give it a try if he was in F1 still

 

[Kerming]

Yep. Personally just let the drivers use it whenever they dare!.

I thought that was the idea in the first place, but some nerd in FIA said nono, keep it in one spot. If they had it all the way round the track it would be awsome for a spectator point of view.

 

[arknor]

I thought that was the idea in the first place, but some nerd in FIA said nono, keep it in one spot. If they had it all the way round the track it would be awsome for a spectator point of view.

does nothing for overtaking if everyone has it though just turns it into the f-duct , if DRS could be used forever they may aswell just let teams use passive f-ducts

 

[mmj_uk]

The only reason DRS works (or would work) is because it's only the following driver who can use it. If anyone could use it at any time it would pretty much negate any overtaking advantage it would provide. Similar to KERS. The only reason it had benefit in 2009 was because only half the field had it.

Just stick the detection zone on the start/finish line and make it last for the full duration of the lap, as it stands now they might as well have not bothered implementing it.

 

[Kerming]

does nothing for overtaking if everyone has it though just turns it into the f-duct , if DRS could be used forever they may aswell just let teams use passive f-ducts

I ment, the drivers can use when ever they like but they have to be under that magical 1 second gap. not constantly as they please becuase I agree that would just make it into a f-duct system.

 

[gord]

the quoted person SHOULD have concerns - thats exactly what Im saying

The Massa / Button tussle showed its currently NOT down to skill to be able to overtake

I said he should have no concerns because as we all saw, DRS doesn't magically let you pass. Surely that means overtaking is still down to skill. Even if its the combined skill of using DRS and overtaking.

I don't see how the tussle showed its the other way round?

If Button had come up behind Massa and walked past using DRS then I'd say the skill from overtaking has gone and the sport would be worse for it.

At the moment the DRS appears to negate the effects of the damaged air coming off the back of a slower car, which means we see more wheel to wheel action in the braking zones/corners. This is exactly what I want and the reason I think they should collect more data on DRS before making changes.

 

[ps3ud0]

Quick question regards Sepang, is there an opportunity to 'cheat' the DRS system by overtaking on the last corner just before the DRS zone, but still getting DRS applied because you were behind in the DRS detection zone initially? Effectively you make the pass as normal but because of DRS you also get additional speed because it was activated when you were behind.

Obviously Im assuming that the DRS detection and activation lines are in different places (before and after the final corner)

EIT: Conversely if you are the one thats passed in the detection zone is the system quick enough to realise it should activate your DRS and deactivates the others?

ps3ud0

 

[FrankJH]

At the moment the DRS appears to negate the effects of the damaged air coming off the back of a slower car, which means we see more wheel to wheel action in the braking zones/corners. This is exactly what I want and the reason I think they should collect more data on DRS before making changes.

I dont think DRS will negate aero effects enough to make a difference, but as I originally said at least the FIA are giving it a try

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Interesting thought - I was thinking it would be in conjunction with the GPS system used by the teams to indicate where all cars are on the track. As soon as X car was level with Y (or at some point after possibly) the system would de-activate automatically - even though they are still in the zone. Maybe it isnt that intelligent and as you suggest it stays active until the end of the zone

(I also thought that with the DRS "commentators" were hoping for double overtakes within the DRS zone - ie X takes Y, and then possibility for Y to re-take X within the zone, which would be unlikely if not impossible if X's DRS remained active throughout the zone. This is what I thought was hoped for but I might have misunderstood)

 

[Flibster]

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[rypt]

Never going to happen unless they start seriously restricting the development of the cars, it's a different era and a different type of racing now than it was in the 70s and 80s.

I disagree, they need to completely open the regs in order to get more overtaking

 

[Kenai]

Open regulations in this day and age will just lead to more and more performance disparity with a few cars scampering off into the distance due to some clever feature they have that no one else does.

You're not going to get overtaking like you had in the 70s and 80s without serious restrictions on aero, opening things up will just make it worse, the only overtaking you'd ever see would be people getting lapped.

 

[rypt]

Open regs will allow engineers to design clever and interesting things that will let their cars have an advantage at times

If open regs do not work why is it that in the older days with fewer restrictions you had more interesting F1 and WRC?