***FIFA 10 - PS3 10v10 Clubs***

yeah good games. Not much you can do against elite passers Kill.

Just unfortunate to come up against really good teams. Thanks to poly for setting me up for 2 of my trademark goals. :D Missed a bucketload as well but hey at least i was there to miss them ehh :D

Bet you wouldnt believe me if i told you ball control on my player is around 92 haha

but thanks got a bunch of accomplishments done. Got a testimonial one, (trophy i think) coloured boots and a crossing one :D
 
I think we just need to play more our formation and build chances from the ANY play (drag their players out of position) and from there its pretty easy to make decent chances with early balls and looking for players in space. We constantly have a ST on the shoulder of a defender while the other is usuallya bit deeper to assist getting the ball forward - if they are always there, then we should be finding them (just like knowing you can do cross-field passes etc and swap play over the wings)...

For some reason though (I think its due to us being very attacking) we seem to be brittle on the counter, far more than our opponents usually are. We didnt play badly tonight - just seem to do a Man City and let more goals in than we score - I firmly place that at the generics as they are usually are more than useless...

Club seems to come into its own when you have 4/5 players per dressing room. I think we should drop 41212 even though it worked so well in 09 Club (come back Yaya) - the midfield seems to be so stretched that it poses no defensive duties whatsoever and the CDM just ends up being easily circumvented. Id volunteer vanilla 442 (if ANY has control of the CMs) or the Man City 4231 formation...

4222 in my opinion is brillant :p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
i think i might just take a weeks break from fifa. it gets really frustrating when i try to pass the ball but my vp will just carry on running.. and running.. :o

as it is, we get about 1.5mb max from our bt connection and that's with 6+ laptops/desktops on :eek:, so once virgin come and install.. we'll have both a bt connection as well as cable. my bro and i will use cable and i'll give the rest of my family the bt connection.. :D
 
41212 and 4222 take a lot of discipline to pull off as does the 4231 city formation (the 2 DM's need to hold their posistions)

We seem to be just too attacking, ive noticed this as i usually play upfront (sorry for hogging it but its really the only role i know how to play)

I've seen a band of players all storming forward into the box, then if they clear we have no midfield to stop their counter, the same thing happens with corners.

If needs must in whenever we are playing next, ill switch to a CM and only venture up for corners.
 
I'm not sure how we've suddenly become rubbish at ANY. Don't think any of us are as good at it as we were in 09. Defenders have a mind of their own.


I think we should do what everyone else is and play 5 along the back.
 
41212 and 4222 take a lot of discipline to pull off as does the 4231 city formation (the 2 DM's need to hold their posistions)

We seem to be just too attacking, ive noticed this as i usually play upfront (sorry for hogging it but its really the only role i know how to play)

I've seen a band of players all storming forward into the box, then if they clear we have no midfield to stop their counter, the same thing happens with corners.

If needs must in whenever we are playing next, ill switch to a CM and only venture up for corners.
You should play the other positions to get better - we have plenty of STs it seems :p - and I dont think the whole 'Im only good at this role' helps anyone really (not a dig at you)...

All formations take discipline to work but Ive found 41212 leaves a massive hole in the centre which seems to allow teams to exploit it for the through ball that goes through the whole defence type pass. I find it impossible to deal with an attack as ANY if I dont have the defence line and at least 1 midfielder...

I totally agree we should play the positions given as its quite frustrating as a static or as ANY (moreso as ANY) finding that others are massively out of position and therefore you either end up passing to no one and lose possesion or it rolls out for a throw in. Width does seem to work in 10 Club over 09 since the crossing is far more potent - regularly hug the touchline when Im LM/RM/AM as you get quite a lot of space either to cross or to come in and play a short pass to ST for them to shoot...

Im very happy not to come up for corners (useless for headers) and will stay more outside the box waiting for the clearance to land - actually anything to do with corners Id rather avoid really...

Skip - I dont think 5 defence really helps (rarely see it in Club nowadays) against the through balls that cut through our defence, though I guess we should try it - FIFA seems to give you the worst set of defenders possible where they are either all too high and easily turned or the lb/rb plays on every attacker and you ****ed on the counter attack - I dont put that just down to us being very attacking...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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I like the crossing in this game and would agree with your comments about a wide game, a large number of the goals I've scored have come from me nodding in a poly cross :D

To be honest I don't think the way we attack is an issue though, we just need to try and avoid leaking so many goals, but we have been coming up against some particularly good teams the last few times - which hasn't really helped our confidence at the back.

the difference between ANY on 09 and 10 comes from the generic players we now have to use, in 09 we were mainly barca and had some world class defenders to play with against what we have now are players who'd even struggle to play for darlo, and that is saying something! :D

On top of that our rubbish defenders are defending against the equivalent of world class forwards, especially if the team we are playing against have been training up their VPs since day one!
 
Shame theres no upgrading of the generic team dependent on how well youve progressed the VPs who play on Club - would be fairer and added incentive not to have poor VPs. Even if it was an average with say 10/20points per skill knocked off its better than potentially having a string of generics that can range from 35 to 70 overall skill

Its quite a large oversight by EA especially considering most VPs playing Club are going to end up with very high stats...

Also anyone noticed that form seems to stay quite high even after a defeat or two? A few of my stats were still 99 when we finished last night...

I'd rather see EA have the VP's join a real squad in the next FIFA rather than a team of generics.
Or they just have a standard team of generics everyone has to use for Club with only the appearance/names that differs...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Or they just have a standard team of generics everyone has to use for Club with only the appearance/names that differs...

ps3ud0 :cool:


This would be good, say at the level of a 4-4.5* teams so that your VPs can still be the stars, but the non-vps can still make a difference. :)
 
no offense taken ps3udo but it really it the only posistion i play and play well (most of the time ;p)

but i agree with the wide play, i may switch my vp to a winger.

I noticed even when i was playing upfront, i like to run in between defenders and found myself on the overlap on the right wing about 8 times out of 10 and then crossing rather than being in the box for the cross.

time to make a 5ft 5 wipper snapper to run up the wing!
 
no offense taken ps3udo but it really it the only posistion i play and play well (most of the time ;p)

but i agree with the wide play, i may switch my vp to a winger.

I noticed even when i was playing upfront, i like to run in between defenders and found myself on the overlap on the right wing about 8 times out of 10 and then crossing rather than being in the box for the cross.

time to make a 5ft 5 wipper snapper to run up the wing!
Unfortunately the problem is is thats how me, Skip and Jonny started where as STs we ended up taking the wide space that wingers should be exploiting and meant that there was only 1 head to cross to meaning it was counter productive in the end. To counter this in 09 Club we went with 41212 to allow a ST to go wide but it meant there were still 2 central people to cross to and in 09 it worked a lot and the main reason we came to 10 Club wanting to use the same formation.

Im annoyed that it doesnt work as effectively, but perhaps thats my fault on the edited form I uploaded and perhaps someone else could do a better job. I think thats why Ive promoted 4222 as its an old manager mode fav of mine and allows AMs flexibility to be a dedicated winger or come more central - we just need to learn that the AMs really should complement each other (one joins attack, other stays on wing or cover to pick up loose ball; or one uses wing to cross while other gets to back post to add another head to aim for) which may help in long run (same goes for STs and DMs really)...

Try other positions as in all honesty it adds far more to your game (I might be on the end of someones wrath but as I said in 09 Club, the ST position is the easiest to be good at compared to the others IMO) - Skip was easily one of our best STs in 09 Club but hes slowly moved to a more AM role and I think hes far better for it. I joke about his chips but it was the main reason we got him to try CAM as he could invariable provide a killer chip which was wasted attribute if he was just ST as he didnt have the same room to work with.

I know I sound like a know-it-all and I definitely come across like that in Club (I would apoligise but its just the way I am Im afraid), but Ive played a fair number of games with the same squad of players (me, Skip, Jonny, Beenom, HTK and Jamesbcd must have played 1000+ Club games as a team) so just trying to help make us all gel - Im not saying we are great, but perhaps got to a point where we are so used to each other its second nature - but its a good reason why we want others to add extra dimensions to our play where possible...

P.S. dont unduly change your VP for Club, just do whats comfortable and works in the positions youd like to try/be - once you add form you can still be strong, tall and fast. Finally I think we are going in the right direction, just need time, patience and perhaps a bit of honesty...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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What about Friday instead? :D I won't be able to tomorrow night. :(

Oh and good posts by the way Pseudo. Agree with pretty much all of what you've said in the past 2 or 3 posts.
 
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LOL That is a truly dreadful site. I can't make Thursday but I'm fine for the rest of the nights. If the majority wanted a Thursday then that's cool I'll just have to sit this one out.

Any word on a kit change Pseudo? Have a look at St Etienne. I know you don't like blocks of colour, their away kit is white with green shorts and has a nice green strip diagonally to break up the white shirt. The dark ish green home kit is nice as well.
 
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