FIFA 14
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lowest fornt man of 91 pace, Slowest mid is 80, defence has enough pace on the wings and a mix on the CB's to have one brick wall and another pacey CB to cover the runs should they break. It has enough pace it could be sweaty as all hell if you wanted.
Plus i answered my own question.
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Hummels over Santana?
Hummels is by far the best defender in the league. He wins everything plus he can pass. Having a defender that can pass helps out tremendously.
Nice squad. No Schweinsteiger? Is that because of his 63 pace?
Do you prefer Aubameyang over Lewandowski?
No i hate aubamayang, he is so over abused i refuse to use him but you wanted pace.
My bundas is.
Reus, huntelaar. robben.
Kroos schwein. draxler
Alaba. boetang hummels. lahm
Far to slow for you tom in the mid, Kroos is 57 pace, schwein is 63 and draxler is positively blistering at 78 compared to them.
My bundas is.
Reus, huntelaar. robben.
Kroos schwein. draxler
Alaba. boetang hummels. lahm
Far to slow for you tom in the mid, Kroos is 57 pace, schwein is 63 and draxler is positively blistering at 78 compared to them.
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Yeah, well when I built my Bundes side I didn't have pace in mind and probably didn't put the right squad together... Really disliked how slow it felt. And no Milky, that's not blaming the game engine (before you pipe up again, bless) it's just personal preference.
Yep exactly. I am to picky though, I want everything in a squad and need to realise that it's not going to be possible.
You apparently play too fast, i have only had one game with you so im clueless but if you do then a slow team will not work, players like toni kroos are solid but you cant out run your opponent, you need to build up the play, hold the ball in the mid to get them on goal.
Toni kroos has one of the best long shots i have used but you need to play to his strengths to get him in on goal and playing long through balls for him to run on to or expecting him to consistently beat players defense isn't the way to do it. Just to add, you mid's purpose is to feed passes, instigate moves and clean up loose play in the center, thats how i understand it any way, pace isnt as important as passing, dribbling and position.
I far form excel at this game but i have a good idea how not to use certain players.
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Fair points. Another thing I need to realise is use my players to there strengths.
With 433-2, what I've found so far with Aguero is that most of my goals come from lobbed through balls. Easy to score goals but very boring play. If I try to score by build up play then I find Aguero gets to isolated and then it's impossible to send a pass to him. With 433 I do think you need a strong target man up front.
I think I still prefer 2 strikers up front but with 443 I seem to pass the ball a lot better than 41212. It's very difficult for me to decide what I prefer.
If you aren't using Sokratis, you aren't living! He's great.
If you want a really good all round Bundes team, the one I am using right now (In 433-4) is so good Blascz (sp?) is keeping Robben, Farfan, Muller, Sam etc.. out of the equasion, and Gotze has done the impossbible by upstaging Draxler
Its my goto team right now and I just hope I never get ragey & sell it!----------- Neuer -----------
- Pisz (sp!) - Sokratis - Dante - Alaba
------ Gustavo --- Gundogan --------
------------- Gotze -----------------
----Blascz - Lewandowski - Reus ----
T'is ridiculously well balanced, imo
The thing I noticed and certainly it has improved my game tenfold, is every once in a while you need to let go of the RT/R2 trigger ! Although pace is extremely handy the only real positions I see pace as a need is your front men if you like playing lots of long through balls and maybe your CB's to defend against lots of long through balls. I use IF Godin who has 67 pace and he is god like ! doesn’t let a thing through, I’ve also had very good experience with Hummels too who again is “slow”.
I use Alonso (55 pace) - Xavi (60 something) - Khedira (59) the pace numbers are off the top of my head so not sure if they are 100% correct. But you know what them 3 have prob been the best midfield I have ever used. Sure they are slow and are not going to out run anyone. But all 3 can pass like a freaking beast Alonso and Khedira can hold the ball like no tomorrow, Xavi is a bit more nimble and will get shoved off but his passing ability exceeds anyone I have ever used in this game.
I’ve tried 41212 a few times and I personally just cannot play well with two ST’s. For me I find that one just gets in the way of the other and causes more problems that solves. I play 433(3) the one with two CDMs, some might look at it as being too defensive (especially with Alonso and Khedira both being M/H) but I have no problems creating chances.
I try being tactical with my play. I have two maing styles depending on how my opponent plays with my current BBVA team. If he is hyper aggressive lots of pressure then I simply counter attack my midfield will punish him because of that high passing asset and my front men being zippy buggers. I don’t need or expect Alonso to get the ball then sprint all the way up the field to shoot on a counter it simply will not work, so I will pass it through to Messi, Griezmann or Di Maria they can do the running and/or crack in a scorching goal Alonso can’t. If my opponent is playing at a slower pace or just trying to cross spam, I will play slightly more possession based and will most likely hold it in midfield more often. This is to wait for my chances and my CDM’s can hold the ball well so why rush, he will eventually make a mistake pull a CB out too far or whatever and which point I will take full advantage of that. I also find it tends to annoy cross spammers if you hold the ball in the middle of the park Obviously I might chop and change formation mid game if it’s simply not working, so I might change to false 9 bringing Messi to CF and most likely sub Neymar on for Grezmann. That said I have also changed to a 4231(2) the one with LM/RM brought my wingers back subbed Xavi off for Iniesta as I think he is better at a CAM role. My reasoning was my wingers were simply being abused that far up and was not getting a look in bringing them back a bit in that one game worked because all of a sudden what was working for my opponent was no longer working my positioning was different which threw him off and ended giving me more space and an eventual win.
You need to be more flexible with you play, a one rule fits all will not work. Sure you can play the OP over the top ball over and over again and to some degree it will work, but you will eventually come up against someone who knows how to defend well against that and will rip you apart if you have no other tactic.
Ps I also have no idea why I have written this massive post because it most likely won’t be read.
TLDR: Stop chopping and changing learn how to play various styles and formations. Just because you pick 41212 as you “main formation” does not mean you need to play an entire game in 41212.
I use Alonso (55 pace) - Xavi (60 something) - Khedira (59) the pace numbers are off the top of my head so not sure if they are 100% correct. But you know what them 3 have prob been the best midfield I have ever used. Sure they are slow and are not going to out run anyone. But all 3 can pass like a freaking beast Alonso and Khedira can hold the ball like no tomorrow, Xavi is a bit more nimble and will get shoved off but his passing ability exceeds anyone I have ever used in this game.
I’ve tried 41212 a few times and I personally just cannot play well with two ST’s. For me I find that one just gets in the way of the other and causes more problems that solves. I play 433(3) the one with two CDMs, some might look at it as being too defensive (especially with Alonso and Khedira both being M/H) but I have no problems creating chances.
I try being tactical with my play. I have two maing styles depending on how my opponent plays with my current BBVA team. If he is hyper aggressive lots of pressure then I simply counter attack my midfield will punish him because of that high passing asset and my front men being zippy buggers. I don’t need or expect Alonso to get the ball then sprint all the way up the field to shoot on a counter it simply will not work, so I will pass it through to Messi, Griezmann or Di Maria they can do the running and/or crack in a scorching goal
Alonso can’t. If my opponent is playing at a slower pace or just trying to cross spam, I will play slightly more possession based and will most likely hold it in midfield more often. This is to wait for my chances and my CDM’s can hold the ball well so why rush, he will eventually make a mistake pull a CB out too far or whatever and which point I will take full advantage of that. I also find it tends to annoy cross spammers if you hold the ball in the middle of the park Obviously I might chop and change formation mid game if it’s simply not working, so I might change to false 9 bringing Messi to CF and most likely sub Neymar on for Grezmann. That said I have also changed to a 4231(2) the one with LM/RM brought my wingers back subbed Xavi off for Iniesta as I think he is better at a CAM role. My reasoning was my wingers were simply being abused that far up and was not getting a look in bringing them back a bit in that one game worked because all of a sudden what was working for my opponent was no longer working my positioning was different which threw him off and ended giving me more space and an eventual win. You need to be more flexible with you play, a one rule fits all will not work. Sure you can play the OP over the top ball over and over again and to some degree it will work, but you will eventually come up against someone who knows how to defend well against that and will rip you apart if you have no other tactic.
Ps I also have no idea why I have written this massive post because it most likely won’t be read.
TLDR: Stop chopping and changing learn how to play various styles and formations. Just because you pick 41212 as you “main formation” does not mean you need to play an entire game in 41212.
I'm sure he is great, but he has nothing over Dante really aside from pace, of which Dante doesn't suffer from his 68/9 pace.
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No one on the ps4 that wants to play me.
Might have to buy an xbox one. The competition has dried up on the ps4.
Where you at Rex and Kan? You guys can give me a challenge... sometimes.
Robert - add me ill play you - metalfacemark - my team is pretty cruddy thought.
No one on the ps4 that wants to play me.
Might have to buy an xbox one. The competition has dried up on the ps4.
Where you at Rex and Kan? You guys can give me a challenge... sometimes.
Bring it on!
Got everything out the way so I can have a good session with my new additions, EA Servers down - RAGE !!!!
Same as me last week, was on half term from work, got my morning all done, went to try a new team at 12 that I made the night before, servers down till 2! Then rage played Civ V until 7!
If you want a really good all round Bundes team, the one I am using right now (In 433-4) is so good Blascz (sp?) is keeping Robben, Farfan, Muller, Sam etc.. out of the equasion, and Gotze has done the impossbible by upstaging Draxler
----------- Neuer -----------
- Pisz (sp!) - Sokratis - Dante - Alaba
------ Gustavo --- Gundogan --------
------------- Gotze -----------------
----Blascz - Lewandowski - Reus ----
T'is ridiculously well balanced, imo
I did dismiss the 433 Bundes squad pretty quickly. As said before the lack of pace bothered me but that's down to me not knowing how use the squad properly.
I do need to give it a proper play as I think the squad would be better suited with my style of play, I just need to use it properly.
I think I'd prefer it in 433-2 or 433-3 though.